Proliferation of lights

Jan 15, 2007 60 Replies

OK, reflect *up* off the road.

The current regulations are more or less that. Fog lights can only be used in conditions of fog or falling snow (*not* rain), and when visibility is below 100 Metres.

Indeed.

Bingo! At last, someone who understands the principle of how fog lights can help!

On some vehicles, the front fogs can only be switched on when the dips are

*on*! That is completely pointless. It should be configured the other way round, so the fogs can only be used when dips are *off*"

Yep, I'm that old as well :-)

Chris

Steve, you've amazed me. You have praised a feature that Ford introduced years ago!

Early seventies, MK3 Cortina if my memory serves me correctly...

Chris

Still illegal. There was a motorist in one of the TV patrol progs that got a spot fine of £30 recently for having foglights on unnecessarily, but I know what you mean. A sympathetic copper might agree with you. :-) Mike.

On all the Mk3 Cortinas I've had the sidelights are still on when you take the ignition key out (but with the headlights switched on). On Alfas / Fiats the lights go out when you take the key out (with the lights switched on) - unless you turn the key to the parking light position.

I'm a pedant and proud of it. Someone has to stand up to the Americanisation of the English language. Things that reflect do so in only one direction. Just like reversing back. Aaaaargh!

OK, I see. That is indeed mostly how motorcycles are.

I was just going by what Steve said; "...headlights that switch on and off with the ignition."

Chris

Sidelights stay on tho. Still enough to knack your battery.

Not on Alfas / Fiats / Lancias since about 1990-ish.

Wasn't it because of the 'smogs' we used to have that hastened the introduction of city clean air acts? They were filthy. Half an hour in one of those, and your clothes would be dripping with inky looking water. As far as visibility went, I recall bus conductors walking in front of their buses to guide the drivers, and cars following me and my mates on our bikes. We took perverse pleasure in leading them off the main roads down some side street. I'm sure they were cursing us once they realised. Mike.

Not on any of the Fiats I've ever owned. Even my old 131s had the same set up where you have to turn the key to a special position to keep the sidelights on when the engine is off.

Alfetta and Sud based cars have a 'conventional' setup, as did my 124 Spider.

The only thing I can remember about 'Sud switches was that on one I drove the heater fan speed was on either the indicator or wiper stalk...

Saabs have done that since the 60's. handy - in these dark days I just leave the switch permanently 'on'

Here here! This reminded me of the other day when they announced on the local radio news that an "ex-murderer" had escaped from the local open prison. I'm still trying to work out what an "ex-murderer" is. Any suggestions?

BobC

In message , BobC writes

A murderer who has died?

Someone who murdered his ex, of course.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Chris Bolus saying something like:

Pretty much exactly what the headlamp switch on my Tranny is like. A bloody good idea, though I'm not one to leave the fogs on by accident/deliberately anyway.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "BobC" saying something like:

I don't know, but there could be 'various different' [1] answers to that.

[1] Another phrase beloved of newsfolk and politicians.

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