We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "gazzafield" saying something like:
Useter do that a lot. It's a peculiar setting, because there's civilisation of a sort either end of the road and you don't really get the feeling of it being very desolate, given that it's not all that long.
Until you break down on a s***ty night, that is.
lot. It's a peculiar setting, because there's
I was driving home yesterday evening, When I sees in my rear view mirror a Bright Ball of Light approaching at MACH 3. When the light caught me up it stayed behinf me at around 100 yards. Foglights melting the rear of my car, It didnt want to overtake just sit behind me. I thought ive had enough of this dazzling, Ill do the same so i switched on my rear fogs, He soon moved back and turned off his fogs.
Yes I know its the wrong thing todo, But i coudnt think how to tell the car behinf that he dazzling me.
regards
df
Depends if you have driving lights or fogs. Its perfectly legal to use
*driving lights* with main beam, and are regulated by the same conditions of use - i.e. must not be used when other road users may be dazzled by them.
Nope, both my car and my fathers BMW both have driving lights in the valance, as specified in the handbook. They have a different beam shape to fogs.
If they are below a certain hight from the ground, they can only be used as fog lights. Whether they are called driving lights or fog lights, the law doesn't allow their use in non foggy conditions on public roads. Ie, when visibility is a 100 metres or less
WRC cars have extra driving lights for night stages. If you've noticed, they are fitted to the front of the bonnet. Such a setup is road legal as long as they can be dipped, or are set in the dipped position, and if the wattage is no more that that permitted for road use. AFAIA there is no legislation to restrict the number of headlights a car has. Mike.
Mike G mumbled incoherently to the rest of uk.rec.cars.maintenance:
Where is the definition of driving lights that states they must be above a certain height? There is a definition of fog lights and their heights and positions but not one for driving lights. You cannot classify all lights below a set height as fog lights!
No there is not any restriction on number of headlights, but WRC cars lightpods are there for extreme amounts of extra light, the same as what basic driving lights are for but to a total extreme and obviously positioned better as looks and pedestrian impact safety are of no interest.
UK law. Lights other than fog lights must be above 500mm.
That is pretty much what the law *does* do. If it's below 500mm, it can only be used in conditions of fog or falling snow.
This would appear to make it illegal to use the standard equipment driving lamps fitted to some cars. (Unless it's foggy of course!)
Unless you are a pedestrian that gets hit by one on a road section of course :-)
Chris Whelan ( snipped-for-privacy@prejudicentlworld.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
Nope.
Out of interest, do they come on with dipped beam and are they below 500mm height?
Chris
BobC mumbled incoherently to the rest of uk.rec.cars.maintenance:
My pokey little under-bumper lights light up almost as much as my headlights and are driving lights :)
Chris Whelan ( snipped-for-privacy@prejudicentlworld.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
I've *very* rarely seen long, thin beam "driving lamps" fitted as standard
- they're usually short, wide beam fog lights.
Although if they "*only* come on with dips, they are completely useless as fog lights.
Chris
Chris Whelan ( snipped-for-privacy@prejudicentlworld.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying :
In very thick fog, yes.
And therein lies a whole 'nother story...
Chris Whelan mumbled incoherently to the rest of uk.rec.cars.maintenance:
They come on with anything above sidelights (must have sides on) and are scraping the floor at about 300 but the car does have an option of fogs or driving lights and there are seperate rear and front fog light indicators on the dash, and when in use it does not light up the front fog dash light. The japanese versions came with fogs and do light up the front fog indicator.
In that case, surely they contravene UK lighting regulations?
Chris
Chris Whelan mumbled incoherently to the rest of uk.rec.cars.maintenance:
Looks that way, but they are standard lights on a standard UK spec car ('91). Maybe its age-linked legislation and wasnt in place when my car was manufactured?
I'm pretty sure the law has been the same all the time I have been driving, and that's considerably earlier that 1991 :-)
I have seen much newer vehicles with the same setup; I'm guessing that regulations in other EU countries don't prohibit them, and it's not worth making modifications just for the UK.
Chris
The law has always been the same, save a change from inches to millimeters!
Probably correct. I never, ever turn on the "lights in the bumper"
on my '05 Citroen C5 as, as far as I can see, they are illegal, except in the sort of fog I've never seen since the 1960's.
BobC
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