Re: Dodgy Williams?

Sep 14, 2003 11 Replies


Hello all, lurked for ages, find the posts & answers fascinating. I am cross


> with myself, as I recently parted with a large wedge of (hard earned) cash
> for a '95 'N' plate Renault Clio Williams 3. I wasn't unduly worried, as I'd
> had a Clio 16v previously which was pristine - well looked after, tidy and
> immaculate. Sadly, my rip-off vision glasses were at the menders when I went
> to see the Williams... It looked great, sounded great, and all boded well,
> so I bought it............

Oops! your only consolation is everyone buys a wrong 'un at some point. How did a 95 car get so rusty in the first place? I think you need to bite the bullet and have the car surveyed by a bodyshop, at least then you will know if the car is worth fixing.

sounds like it's been fixed after a prang first up, did you get a hpi check? they might be sympathetic to your cause if it's been a write off in the past, but if it's not been recorded then I don't think you have a leg to stand on

private seller or trader?

private and you have been stitched up to the nines matey you did of course check to see if the seller was the official owner didn't you? and that they lived at the address they gave on the log book?

if they have then I suppose you may be able to claim from someone along the line in the mall claims court or something if it's been described as "mint" and turns out it's actually a polo, but I wouldn't hold your breath

if it of any consolation, we've all been there and done that at some point

underneath!!!

Surely a 'straight' car wouldn't be rusting that badly, and the leaky door seals coupled with the rest of it...

Methinks a hastily repainted, improperly jigged write off or heavy damage repaired. It would fit with the tale of woe for a back street bodger to take a desirable[1] car that has been thrashed, bashed and trashed, probably stolen/recovered and patch it up in that way.

If it came from a dealers, you may have recourse, else get it checkd on a jig then sorry, big labour time to undo the damage done by El Tosso, make good the original body damage then spray and rust proof.

Did you do a vehicle history check before parting with wodge?, if that brought nothing back there may be some recourse there.

Private sale?, araldite in the house door locks, half a gallon of paraffin through the letter box and a note proclaiming 'next time it'll be lit'.

Won't help your case but will make you feel a little better[2].

[1]Hottish hatch with a name. [2]Don't actually do this!

I reckon this is his best bet, if it where legal!

It's probably a cut & shut or something.

Andy

It happens. I've seen N-plate Clios scrapped because of failing the MOT on rust which was so severe as to be uneconomic to repair. Citroen ZXs seem to be good rust-bug-fodder at the moment too.

Cheers - thanks for replying. I usually pride myself with judging characters pretty well (I'm a nurse after all), and the guy who sold me it seemed ok. I explained it was going to be a 2nd *family car* and I questioned him about the paint/bodywork, general reliability to which he said it was totally fine. The more I dig into the car, the more upset I get. I went for the car as it drove well, looked good (haha) had no HPI records (so I assumed rightly or wrongly it'd never been crashed/damaged) and I trusted the bloke.Well you live and learn.....and I'm 36!!

Cheers,

Chris

tempted, i can tell you....

bloody thing costs me every day - had to get a new brake bulb today - not a good time for it to pack in, as my faith is rapidly wearing thin...!!!

Ooh - I hope it wasn'y!

Any easy way to tell if it's cut/shut?

Chris,

Am I right in assuming that you HPI'd it before you bought it?

If so, you've got a very good chance of getting your money back from HPI.

Yes, I did do an HPI check over 'tinternet - please, tell me more!

Chris

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Yup.

Watch the film Herbie or the recent Vauxhall Meriva ad.

-- JackH

OK firstly, I assume you paid cash for it - did the chap seem respectable, did he live in a respectable part of the world etc.?

Have you contacted the seller since you've discovered all of this?

-- JackH

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