Running In and New Vehicles.

... well at least engines.
Many years ago, in fact 50+, I recall my brother having a new (I suspect recon) engine fitted to his first car, a Ford Pop (or perhaps
Anglia- you could get either in the same shape, a rounded 3 box car).
Much was made about 'running it in'.
Years later, in fact 1983, when I bought me first new car, a Mk3 Escort, I don't recall the regime being nearly so strict, although there was an oil and filter change at 1000 miles ('Free' - at least included in the purchase price. I think the same was true in '87 when I bought a new Orion.
I think by 1993, an Espace, the 1000 mile oil change had gone, although the advice to be 'light footed' (my words) for the first few 1000 miles (I can't recall the number) remained.
Later new vehicles, likewise, haven't specified an oil change (inc filter) for 12k (or so) / 12 mths- whatever the vehicle- several Japanese, a Korean, and a couple of Fiats (both diesels).
I'd never really thought much about it until the oil thread but is the change mainly due better oils? I suppose Engines are manufactured to better tolerances but, in general, these days, 100k miles for an engine is considered 'past it', where as in the 60s, it would have been. (At least for a petrol one.)
(Obviously being 'light footed' at first is wise and I'm not a boy racer even later in the vehicle's life.)
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On 03/12/2018 18:35, Brian Reay wrote:

I was surprised when I had to do the first oil change at 500 miles on a 4 year old Fiesta (don't ask), the oil that came out was a fairly lurid green, so I expect that the first fill from the factory is something quite special.
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On 03/12/2018 21:28, MrCheerful wrote:

What a coincidence. I was showing No 1 son-in-law how to do an oil change etc at the weekend and one of his questions was about the colour of the oil (old vs new). I explained why it went black etc but also mentioned that, while most (if not all) new engine oil was light straw coloured, there used to be a green one- the dreaded Duckhams. I explained that I believed it was no longer sold here due to some legal agreement but I wasn't sure.
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On 03/12/2018 18:35, Brian Reay wrote:

How many 2nd hand cars of, say, a year old are ex-hire that may have been driven Italian style from day one?
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On 03/12/2018 22:01, alan_m wrote:

Heaven knows, especially ex-hire ones.
While there is a school of thought that buying nearly new makes more sense money wise, you could be getting something that has been trashed. We bought a Smart Car with only a few k miles on it a couple of years back. 'Touch wood', it seems to have been a very good buy. However, it was a 3rd car, and a 4th vehicle at the time, mainly for use on holiday (we tow it on a trailer behind our motorhome). However, we've grown to like it so much, it gets quite a lot of use and we are considering buying a new one.
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Most of them - but it's a myth that they are driven that way. I hire a few times a year through work, but although I do give hire cars a bit of stick, I'm often more careful than I am with my own car.
(It's hard not to be a little enthusiastic with a Fiesta Ecoboost Zetec - although the 1.4 Corsa I had in Ireland didn't really encourage naughtiness)
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On 03/12/2018 23:15, Steve H wrote:

Or worse, a brand new model just released, then handed to some crazy motoring journos as a demo car, or maybe even top gear :( Of course the manufacturer gets some exposure, but at what price?
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On 03/12/2018 23:15, Steve H wrote:

I think it depends on your age/attitude. I recall a chat with a hire car agent during the drive from their office to our campsite (before we towed a car), she said the sometimes got cars back which had really been thrashed (inc driven around fields etc.- one they thought had been on a beach an got sea water in it). The problem is, you don't know if the one you buy is one of those.

I thought the Corsa was a Bad Boy's Car of choice, in'it, as the yoof of today say ;-)
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On 04/12/2018 06:52, Brian Reay wrote:

I left the key of a hire car with a neighbor for collection. A new gas main was going in and the workmen borrowed the key and kindly moved it 100m down the road. The car was gone, I thought it had been collected. The stream flooded during the night and it was sunk above the door sills. Found it full of dirty water the next morning as as there were no other parked cars on road to hide it. Dried the carpet by rolling a rolled up old towel over it like a squeegy. Then left it with air con running for a day. Stuffed the vents with a few cut up air fresheners.
Didn't hear anything so I assume it went undetected.
It would have been high and dry if they had moved it 100m the other way up the road.
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On 05/12/2018 03:01, Peter Hill wrote:

I once hired a punto, as soon as I needed the rear wiper I discovered that it was broken. Nothing to do with me or street hooligans, it was broken from the start. But I didn't notice before it started to rain.
To avoid having to pay hire company for something that I hadn't done, I super-glued the rear wiper.
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On 05/12/2018 21:39, johannes wrote:

The company I used to work for had a couple of cars on a permanent basis and it was much less paperwork to book these than to go for a hire car. I picked one of these cars up just after it had been serviced and was on the motorway at 70+mph when just started t rain. I turned on the wipers and the drivers side one immediately parted company with the wiper arms and flew over the top of the car. Wiper blades are not normally the thing you check on the walk around inspection of the car when you pick it up.
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On 03/12/2018 18:35, Brian Reay wrote:

I think the change in practice is at least partly related to the introduction of plateau honing for cylinder bores. This gives you deep grooves that act as oil reservoirs, but flat "peaks" which form better bearing surfaces for the piston rings. Improvements in oil additives probably contribute, also perhaps the move to lighter oils which lubricate cold engines better.
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On 03/12/2018 18:35, Brian Reay wrote:

I've only purchased one car from new, a Citreon ZX. There was a free 1000 mile service with that BUT the free bit was for labour only. When I got the bill for consumables oil, filter etc. they were hiked so much in price that I effectively payed for the labour. They even had itemised charges for the plastic they used to cover the seat and the paper used to protect the mat. I never used that dealer again!
Perhaps I should have been forewarned because after negotiating a price for the car I was phoned up a day later asking if i wanted to pay extra for a "diamond" finish to the paintwork and a few other extras. On declining these services they offered to do the diamond finish as a goodwill gesture - presumably as it couldn't be seen/checked they didn't bother.
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