diesel into a landrover

LOL

Buying a second hand Merc van will be a better solution.

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That's a bad idea, you'd be better off with a Japanese diesel, a Mazda for example, I've seen a few Land/Range Rovers with MB engines and they all seemed to have cooling problems.

Why not just get a G Wagen?

They drive circles around me, too, when I am driving in my 72 PS W123 240D which needs

The solution is to stay calm and let them race as fast as they want, they are stupid and do not know what they are doing: Crash and accident rate amongst white van drivers here in Germany is _extremely_ high.

Juergen

They drive circles around me, too, when I am driving in my 72 PS W123 240D which needs

The solution is to stay calm and let them race as fast as they want, they are stupid and do not know what they are doing: Crash and death rate amongst white van drivers here in Germany is _extremely_ high.

Juergen

My father put in a 28 year old 300D engine and auto transmission into a Ford Econoline camperized van, fuel consumption is 30% of what it was before and no problems so far in 90,000 miles. Went across Canada and back, Alaska and Northwest Territories in Canada 4 times and back again next week, Florida and back, about 7000 miles and NO PROBLEMS. THAT's a mericedes! :-)

cp

They use basically the same engines as in the C 270, E 270 cars so the performance, NVH levels are of course very impressive.

Mercedes-Benz vans, like much of their many other models & types of vehicles which includes their cars, buses & coaches perform @ their best & give the most travelling satisfaction especially when driven fast ! Therefore i can almost perfectly understand why a Vito or Sprinter van or minibus have to be driven fast to make it worth the while to drive them in the 1st place ! Otherwise might as well drive a Trabant !!

The standard of handling & stability even around 100 km/h levels is very impressive, definitely light years ahead of say a Suzuki, Toyota or Nissan van ! The quality of the van population in Germany i've good reason to believe is the best in the world so that however 'extremely high' the accident & fatality rates may be in Germany involving vans, the safety levels is still superior to almost anywhere in the world !

Therefore. i'm NOT particularly alarmed by any such claims of 'extremely high' accidents rates, if it ever is true. You drive a lousy junk van in Asia or India etc. you'll only get a much worse situation !! You drive a 240 D ? Then perhaps you should compare with an O 309 minibus or a 307 D van instead ! That's more of your generation & your

Juergen . wrote:

A Japanese diesel engine is a relatively inferior & backdated choice to consider, especially with 2nd generation cDi charge-cooled diesels now available !!

Overall, i'll not bother to use a Japanese diesel again, now with the great progress (especially over the last 5 years) made in M-B diesel engines ! The cooling problems can have a variety of causes which need not be due to inferior engine design etc. especially since M-B engines are not custom design to go with Land or Range rovers in the 1st place !

G-wagen ? I'll settle for a G 400, can forget the G 500, unless they do a modern diesel version of it !

nick wrote:

I had an extra 617 turbo diesel engine and looked into putting it into a 4x4 body. I ran into problems with almost all of them except one. MB uses a front sump on the oil pan and from the top of the valve cover to the bottom of the pan, it is 29 1/2". All using a front differential would not let the engine sit low enough in the frame. The only one I found that had enough clearance between the sub-pan and the front diff was the old Nissan Patrol. But the frame rails were too narrow.... I did not have a G wagon to play with. They were too expensive here in the US since they were not a legal vehicle then [still too expensive!]. And 300GD's were around.

I thought that M-B diesel engines were always topnotch (within the context of their time, of course).

DAS

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If you look @ the engines used in the Vito & Sprinter vans over the last

I never quite liked the old 2.3 litre ln-line 4 cylinder naturally aspirated diesel in the Vito 108 D due to it's limited performance & the irritating resonance @ certain rpm's in the lower speed range ! But the current

The old 2.9 litre in-line 5 used in the Sprinter 312 D & E 290 etc. since the mid-90's was quite a 'refined' unit, sounding like an Audi 5-cylinder petrol engine eventhough it's a diesel ! Now that's been superceded by the 2.7 litre in-line 5 cDi unit which is known to be far superior in performance with much lower NVH & exhaust emission levels. So i conclude that over the last 5 years, there's been significant progress in M-B diesel engines.

I agree (with few exceptions) that M-B diesels are topnotch for their time if not even somewhat ahead of their time.

Dori Schmetterl> I thought that M-B diesel engines were always topnotch (within the context

Karl wrote:

No question there have been immense improvements in diesel engines in recent years. Improved fuel quality has helped, of course. Hence arrival of CLK diesel; years ago that would have been an oxymoron.

DAS

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But the chances of taking a Cdi engine unit, and it's relevent computers and cats and fitting it into Land Rover are slim, a more realistic conversion would use a 617 or 606 engine.