Bugger, I'm tempted by this thing...

And the book for mine says 940 kilos. So there's almost a 10% difference, which is a fair bit really. But I'm sure the turbo would make up for it :).

What's the going rate for a box and engine these days? I'm getting very tempted to do this once I'm out of uni and earning enough cash. I like to think I'd fit an ABF and leave it alone, but I know I wouldn't - I'd start chasing 180bhp and before you know it'd have a tubular manifold, a new stainless exhaust, bike throttlebodies and megasquire on there and I'd have lashed nearly enough cash to get a turbo lump.

But that golf is moving into high miles S60T5 territory, that's 250bhp out of the box and 300+ is a remap away.

Probably quite a bit less than I paid, though I'd probably be looking at a 2l now. Though as they are quite new there still isn't the experience in what they can take.

Eh? I reckon you could get a 1.8T into a MK2 Golf for about £2k all in including buying the car. And I'll bet a MK2 Golf weighs a good 30% less than an S60.

I think he may be talking about the slightly rusty VR6 originally posted by Timo.

Ah. I really don't see the appeal of a VR6 conversion now the 1.8T is knocking around. It's not that brilliant.

The sound and feel of a 6-pot, I assume.

But, as I've already said, it's a big, heavy lump of an engine, so not ideally suited for a small, lightweight, FWD hatch. They don't make huge amounts of power, either.

VRs are too heavy really but they do sound a lot better than the 1.8.

and they drink like fish day to day....

That's why you should forget them completely for a nice turbo volvo.

The traditional Mi16 engine is 160bhp in it's original guise (ie the 405 Mi16 and BX GTi 16v / 16v). But they do have massive tuning potential. The engine (well at least the head) was based on the 205 T16 Group B rally car's design, so it's certainly got race pedigree. 200bhp is not hard to acheive. The later GTi6 evolution (also in the Xsara VTS) was the 167bhp version, which is becoming more popular with the 205 brigade.

Indeed, but we never got the 309 GTi 16v. Due to complexities of the LHD - RHD conversion I believe and the decline of the hot hatch at the time.

I too am a liker of said engine. My friend had a 309 Mi16 conversion and I liked it alot. I've only experienced it in the BX, but it was very addictive. I've almost been tempted to buy another over the last few days!

I've seen a couple of 405 T16 engines for sale recently. They would be quite interesting in a 205. There's also a 205 Mi32 (Mi16 front and rear) which I'd also like a go in :)

Mk2 Golfs have always 'felt' much heavier to me compared to a 205. not very scientific I know.

For my Corrado I bought an AUQ (180bhp) 1.8T engine, gearbox, alternator, starter, loom, everything else under the bonnet -ECU for £650 delivered 2 years ago. Didn't want the ECU as I was going for a DTA. If you want more than 180bhp, don't waste youe money on the ABF, just get a

Hehe, yeah of course it will :)

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Hehe, yeah of course it will :)

I could give you about 5x 140 bhp for that, no shit.

Most people aren't interested in NOS though... :)

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