When i lock the doors with the remote or the key the locking system locks then unlocks and i cannot lock the doors. anybody know what the problem is or does anyone no how to disable the central locking so i can lock it manualy....cheers
It's a Citroen, French electrics, umm that's it really.
You need to modify the central locking. That will fix it.
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cheers mate but how would i do that...?
The car may be unlocking itself because it thinks that one of the doors isn't shut properly - do yourself a favor and just make sure that they /are/ shut properly. The system may sense this from the courtesy light switches (easy) or switches inside the door locking/latch gubbins (tricky).
It may also be unlocking itself if one of the central locking motors is tired or the locking mechanism in one of the doors is a bit stiff.
I know that Peugeots 306s (essentially the same car as a Xsara) had a prediliction for breaking wires in the door jamb - the flexible bit that connects the electrics in the door to the rest of the wiring loom. Especially on the drivers door. This can cause all sorts of electrical madness.
If you haven't already, try asking on alt.autos.citroen or alt.autos.peugeot.
Sorry I have no idea how to go about disabling the system. Because of the way many Peugeots/Citroens seem to be wired, pulling the fuse will probably also disable the rear left indicator and BBC radio 1, 3 and 5 on the stereo.
Cheers Douglas, I have checked the wires where you said and and there are no breaks or snips but it does think that the front passenger door is open as when i am driving the light will come on and it will start bleeping saying that the passenger door is open but its not, then it will go off then back on again. i could lock the car with the key in the passenger door and that would lock all the doors but it will not let me now.. the problem seems to be the passenger door but i ain't got a clue as to what it could be.. with what i have said has it shed anymore light on you to think it coulod be something else....cheers
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It was a joke as this is a modding not maintenance group. But you could try gullwing doors.
On a more serious side, quite often general electrical faults can be traced to grounding faults, either rust at the bolt, or chafed wiring wearing through the insulation and making short circuits.
If that isn't the case, the actuators in the doors can some times get stuck and either not work and cause fuses to blow, or get out of adjustment and cause the locking to rebound instead of lock.
There is usually some adjustment in the actuators inside the door panels, and quite often they get gummed up over time and that helps pull them out of adjustment.
Check the switch for the courtesy light.
It might have a bad ground. It will be somewhere on the door frame, but I'm not familiar with pug/cit cars.
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I'd be surprised if there was any adjustment available around the actual actuator in a car like a Xsara, they really are designed to be put together by monkeys. The adjustment for the door panel gaps is more likely to be on the hinge bolts and on the pin that the door locks to, but I could be wrong.
I think on the rear 306 door I took apart, the actuator was built in as part of the latch mechanism. The whole thing was held to the door with a couple of Torx bolts. Once you've unfankled the linkage to the pin and handle I suppose it's quite easy to remove the actuator/latch from the door - except it's inside a door and you've got all sorts of sharp bits of metal and the window winding mechanism to work your way around in a relatively small space. It took me a while as I'd never done it before.
How old is your Xsara?
It sounds like a problem with your passenger door then. Is there a little black plunger in the gap between the wing and the door when it's open that gets pushed in when the door is shut? Does fiddling with it make the display think the door is open or shut? Sometimes the contacts on these switches get dirty or corrode away to nothing. That would be a cheap fix if it is the problem.
I think it's either a bad connection in a connector block somewhere, a broken wire, duff switch or a gubbed lock/latch assembly.
When I had a Citroen, that switch in the door gap was only for the courtesy light and the way the C/L sensed that a door was open was in the lock/latch assembly in the door. However, that was a 1989 BX. Things may have changed.
If you want to fix it yourself, visit a breakers and see if you can get the lock/latch assembly from them. It might be worth getting a whole door (making sure it's got central locking), as you can practise and it won't matter if you bend or break part of the scrap door.
Otherwise hand it to a decent car electrician or Peugeot/Citroen specialist who'll be used to fixing stuff like this and has probably seen it before.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Douglas, Its 2001 year, and i think the courtesy light switch is something to do with the door lock as they ain't no switch on the door jamb anywhere. i were going to tackle taking the door apart but alas the weather is against me so as soon as the weather changes am going to have a look at the lock and what ever else maybe behind the door panel, its not even letting me lock the car at all now which means i cannot go anywhere and its cracking me up....!
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Elder, what and where are the actuators...?
Inside the doors. Usually they are wired with 2 or 4 wires and attach to the door lock/latch with a rod or a push/pull cable.
IIRC modern Cits have no adjustment on the hinge, no bolts. The hinges are welded on. As you say, made to be put together by (garlic munching, pissed, communist) monkeys.
When was the last time that it had a new battery?
i only bought the car 6 months ago but the battery looks quite new and a dont know when the battery was changed in the fob...? but i cannot see it been owt to do with the batterys,,, its something to do with the passenger door but i dont know what...?
That suggests that they're designed not to last long enough to need the doors adjusting as the hinge pins wear...
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