I appear to be the owner of a Celica ST185 GT4 :)

Hasn't got the same "Woosh, Ohmygod...." factor of the Saab, but the seats seem to suit me better, and it is loverly and smooth. Tax until end of December, MOT until june, no body damage, no rust, paint good except looks like a couple of supermarket carpark scrape type scratches, nothing serious.

Dives great, but a little play (slight clonk, not big thud) at the rear on deceleration.

Still still has the Toyota "For Life" bright red coolant. Going to change all the other fluids over the next couple of weeks as I get used to it. Makes full boost as it should.

Has a Thatcham cat 1 alarm and imobiliser, with the certificate. Nothing messed with original 15" wheels, near new P7000's all round, full bunch of paper work from the 1st "Toyota approved used buyer" pdi check, right through to the last service. Only problems are, cloth interior, and aircon doesn't work (well winters near here, so I'll get some one to have a look as it looks like the fuse has been pulled as the switch doesn't work).

H plate Celica GT4 4x4 turbo 137k miles, very near full service history. Any guesses to how much? He was selling it a few weeks ago for £2300 but was getting messed arround. Had it advertised at £2000 to move it.

a)£2k as he won't budge after dropping £300 to resell? b)£1900 because I was local and had cash? c)£1750 because I am the next Mike Brewer, and he was a BMW owning sucker who needed his drive back, and a 330 Coupe can't be cheap to have parked on the road?

Prace bets now.....

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MeatballTurbo
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nice

probably the rear bushes? or anti roll bars?

this stuff is meant to last 'for life' but most MR2 owners change it every

4-5 years with for life.

air con can be pricy but worth fixing if you plan to re-sell as it'll shift it quicker. probably needs a re-gassing approx £500 i think?

you got it for a steal as your a jammy git? £1750?

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Vamp

...at SERIOUS cost. AirCon parts are silly money for "normal" cars, unless you get lucky and find some second hand bits. On top of that, they're usually VERY well integrated - changing the compressor is non-trivial on most cars (ie, Remove everything forward of the rear bumper. Exchange compressor. Reverse procedure). On top of all the above, it's likely to use the oldy "illegal" gas at that age, so you'd have to do the conversion thing.

Multiply all the above statements by twelve, cos it's a Celica GT4 :)

Not an option with leather, but you've got cloth seats - I'd just leave it dead, and pretend it has no AirCon !

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Nom

If the fuse has been pulled, odds-on it's a seized compressor pump.

Last one I priced up was for a 164 V6 at £600 plus VAT and fitting.

However, I'd be more concerned about the fecked 4wd drivetrain if it's clunking from the rear.

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SteveH

Quick update.

Today this morning, just messing about with it, and playing with the fan controls. Suddenly the aircon kicks in, A/C and Econ buttons work, ad it is fecking cold. Seems to be working, I'll try it later when things warm up a bit. But weird how it wouldn't light up even yesterday. Wonder if it is just low on gas. And yes it was an R12 system, so it would need an update to R134A (yes I know that is fittings, oils, esters and filler valves. But why would it suddenly kick in, works on recirc and external draw in, but definaltey wasn't yesterday.

Strange that, if the aircon does work, and he thought it didn't by some mysterious weird combo of switches and dials, I've got a bargain.

As to the clonks. Not all the, only when backing off from high throttle to no throttle, like when going into a roundabout before shifting down, only does it once, doesn't clonk/bump continuosly like the Saab did on occasion. May get the dealer to price up the job, and then when I know what it needs, find an indy to sort it.

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MeatballTurbo

Congrats. I am guessing C. You will be much happier with it than the Saab I bet.

Fraser

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Fraser Johnston

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I doubt much happier, I loved that Saab, just like my previously owned slow as hell Skodas.

But I reckon I will love it as much. And the missus is happier too, I've finally found a car we both like, even if it is bigger engined than she wanted me to have, and older than she would have liked. But letting her have a little test run in it, she loves it too.

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MeatballTurbo

Excellent news all up, congratulations. :p

On the air conditioning, did he say when it last worked? If it's not worked for some time, it may be expensive to get it done, otherwise it might be prudent to get it regassed now...?

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DervMan

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I've looked through the reciept bundle, and it appears to have had a regas and test in 1995, and 1998. He said it hasn't worked while he had it, did get Toyota to price it up, was going get a 3rd party specialist to have a go, but didn't bother. It's an old R12 system, which means it might be expensive because R134A needs all sorts of changes, but if I can find somewhere that will use RS24, it is a drop in replacment for R12, so I can find out whether it needs any additional work after a dye/regas.

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MeatballTurbo

Hopefully! A lot of peeps with R12 systems have not bothered to switch over, but then many are also still working - larger molecules, heh! :)

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DervMan

Subframe bushes? Or it could have poly bushes. these are known to transmit noises like this.

Prop shaft UJ?

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Peter Hill

Aye, bigger stronger, colder. Much more dominant in the battle to come. ;)

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MeatballTurbo

That's what I'm thinking.

Will get it looked at. Maybe one of the "jap performance" places that do so well in cheshire could have a looksee.

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MeatballTurbo

Hmm, interesting...

Sounds like it might work better than 134 as well.

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Questions

It does, but it is also illegal, hence wanting to try a fill of RS24, or R314a which compatable, rather than going with the necessary changes to make R134a work, only to find the compressor is knackered.

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MeatballTurbo

I think it is just a replacment to R12, not R134a.

BTW, R314a is completly different to R134a, and is compatable with R12, like RS24 is.

Difference being is that R314a and RS24 are pumped in as liquid rather than gas (like R12) but is RS24 is more comonly using in industrial chillers/fridge wagons, but is starting to get used in car aircon as it is compatable.

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MeatballTurbo

Yeah, I know R12 is illegal and works well compared to R134a, I hadn't realised there were also alternatives to either, and if RS24 works as well as R12 and is a direct replacement for R134a, I can see an upgrade coming on.

A colder air con system doesn't need to work for as long as a less cold one, in the sense of not having to pump the gas round as many times. This isn't violating conservation of energy, it's reducing inefficiencies I reckon.

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Questions

You don't _have_ to upgrade, I'm stil running R12 in the BM and have a place that can re-gas it for me, although the gas itself is a lot more expensive than the equivalent amount of R134A. you'll have to see how much the upgrade will be and which is cheaper, I s'pose

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Pete MC

Where abouts in the country?

If it was close enough, I could look them up, and get them to give it a diagnosis.

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MeatballTurbo

Ah, nope, little far. Only been there once, and that was about a 4 hour journey, trying to keep in touch with lost relatives also on route.

I'm in Warrington, Cheshire. Not a bad drive though, as long as you don't hit road works.

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MeatballTurbo

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