I'm sorry, have I missed some posts somewhere

May 23, 2008 87 Replies

In ideal circumstances. In less than ideal circumstances you go from roll oversteer to power on oversteer to a tree.

It's the same reason why me running a 911 3.3 Turbo from the mid to late 80s is a very bad idea indeed. If you brake in a corner, you get oversteer. Shoot if you lift off, you get oversteer. If you apply too much power, you get a delayed oversteery action. It's nice and stable as the turbochargers spool up of course. :)

All of the above assumes you were going in too hard or trying to come out too hard. And I don't see the point in buying a 911 if you're not going to try this some of the time.

Solution?

Boxster. Meh.

To be fair though, the ring is hugely about big power as there is so many long straight - and you'd be smacking the limiter in 6th at 141 in the 197. Whereas the Vee would give you a terrifying 155-160. Yes I know the top speed on paper is 150 but allegedly 155gps is easy...

No, just the Renault Sport seats from the 172.

You're welcome for a go :-) Although I'm not letting any of the serial crashers in here have a shot hehe. They're obviously a bit unskilled ;-)

In a Clio V6? I'd love to film that with you trying it in someone elses Vee hehe :-)

Errrrm, I've written off 2 french 'warm' hatches in my time, although that was a few years ago now :)

I'll come out in defence of the Z4M Coupe. Like a modern-day MGB GT V8. But much faster.

You can always cover the badges in tape.

Richard

Whilst this is true, the value of both our 33s plus the 2 modded Tipos is less than half the price of a modded French girlie shopping cart :-P

Serial crashers - none of those around here

Indeed, as long as you know the oversteer can be cured with a shift of weight to the rear the right pedal is the way forwards.

And the iron content is less than half of a modded French girlie shopping cart, in yellow.

Well don't you have someone else's Vee? Or has it gone now.

I guarantee if you tried that in the Vee - you'd crash :-)

Which is exactly the one I have always lusted after.

It is someone elses Vee now, go on let him.

I feel some youtubery.

Hmm, I think I can manage that...

Bah. I'll have to just settle for normal colours, then. Really like diamond-cut, and they're a distinctive feature on Rev 4 MR2s :/

Richard

I'm not so sure, I've seen Tim driving a variety of powerful rear wheel drive machines on a wet racing track and he didn't spin out too many times.

Actually, correction. I span the 350Z near-constantly. Tim didn't. Tim span the 911 near-constantly. I didn't. Our mileage varied. :)

I was faster than you in everything where power to weight ratio didn't matter though.

And the 911s, it was throwing down with rain, and wet grass on a tight track with 10 911s out was never going to be good, especially when entry speed into the first left after the main straight was 90mph....

I seem to remember me breaking a clio cup though...

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