Thank you and goodnight.

Your mother smells of elderberries.

Not a bad list. I was buying broken bikes at auction then repairing them and punting them on. I don't think I have ever made money on a car. Currently looking around for my next one though. I am almost 100% convinced it will be a Subaru Liberty (Legacy) GT wagon in auto. Comfy, less boy racer than a wrx even though it has the same engine and driveline, practical, good on fuel and reliable as the day is long.

Fraser

Really?? Or is this in comparison to a supercharged 6.0 V8 thing?

ISTR that Lordy, once of this parish, had one in his post-Ti days and generally liked it bar some issues with flat-spots and it's tremendous thirst when provoked.

Aye, well, sounds like a good choice. Except for the bit where you live in a country which lets you (afford to) drive 6.0 V8 things...

Yup, monstrously thirsty things in my experience (I had two), 16mpg in general driving, single digits in 'fun' driving. The boxer engine has never been known for being good on fuel in any variant (turbo or NA). Oh, and the flat spot was 'The Valley of Death' - when the valve for the second turbo opens (using the same pipework as for the first), causing the pressure to drop (or some such).

But I'd have another in an instant, unfortunately I commute a bit more these days so it's just not currently practical. I had to find something that was a reasonable compromise between MPG and BHP. Bet you can't guess...

Oh; and still here btw :)

To tell the truth the 6.0 V8 things are a bit shit. Poorly built and handle like a pig on rollerskates. If you like a car where the glovebox drops open every time you hit a speedbump they are ok. Just. Economy on my Liberty is pretty good. 11 litres per 100kms in general driving. 13 if I cane it and 8 or 9 on a country run at our ridiculous 110km/h national speed limit. Of course fuel here is probably 2/3 or what you are paying there. LPG is even cheaper.

Fraser

I've read about this flat spot everywhere but am yet to experience it. I bought my car modded so it is running 18 pounds of boost and is not really stock so maybe whoever owned it before me tuned it out.

I've heard similar things about the VTEC on the VFR800 but find it not to be a problem at all. You are either pootling around under the revs where the cams come on or you are revving straight through that vtec band and then keeping the revs up.

Fraser

Seeing as Dougy has bagsied the 530d, I'll go with a Maestro turboD.

I can afford blu-tack, and I reckon I could forgive something with a large capacity V8 quite a lot.

Right. If I'm doing my sums correctly, that's 21mpg for normal driving. That's more what I might describe as very bloody thirsty. Different strokes in upsidedownia, I guess. I wonder how much of the 30% price differential is eaten up by the fact that everything is miles from everything else? There is no jealousy here. no sirree.

Slightly more desirable than a 530d (in my eyes, at least), but no :)

Citroen C1.

Panda 4x4?

Fuel is cheaper but we do tend to cover much bigger distances. Last holiday we went on was to Exmouth from Perth. 17 hours driving. It's in the same state.

Fraser

Well I've had the Is200 for nearly 2 years and haven't got bored with it once despite the car being probably the most boring one I've had. It is time for a change soon though. Fuel prices, growing miles, revvy 2 litre engine, and driving to see my fiancée every weekend is taking its toll. Starting my own business to get off the Dole means im going to need a big roomy mile munching equally bombproof diesel that will run on anything I pour into it.

VW Touareg V10 TDI

On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 12:23:33 +0100, TheElderUK ranted:

I think you're going to be in s**te old Diesel territory if you want something that will run on anything these days. I gave up on that idea - if you want SVO, it's almost as dear as diesel, and the ballache of collecting and making your own just didn't appeal to me. My Xantia HDi gets between 55 and 60mpg. It's not particularly exciting, but with the

Thank f*ck the Activa is coming home later today though...

snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com (SteveH) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

With VW or Porsche badge, of course.

Anyway, there's a handful of straight five Toerags about...

Not that economical, not that reliable, and with diesel a good few pence more than petrol, going to cost at least as much as an IS to run.

Other than that.... great suggestion.

The only Tuareg that makes any kind of sense at the moment is the V6 TDI.