Wife mode for TVR

May 13, 2008 134 Replies

I am a hp drag racing mad power junkie and cant help myself! There much more potential "left" in the corvette!

And I dont like small cars...

Still, you can get 3 US imported corvettes for the price of one 911 so its not very fair comparrison anyway! The point of that exersize was to show that in a 0 60 0 test the fastest car was only .6 of a second faster than one costing the same as a front drive trolly...

"Burgerman" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Well, one and a half...

A quick google suggests £40k as the imported price for an '08 Vette coupe. A small chunk cheaper than the official UK price of £45k, but definitely not a third of the £60k price of a new 911.

US price of a 'vette starts at $47k - so £23,500 - still not a third of a

911. Add in shipping, duty, VAT, UK lights etc. conversion, and you're not going to see a lot of change from £35k. Before the importer has even covered their trading costs, let alone made a profit.

Heh, I'm not far behind ya. Drove a 650 bhp 993 Turbo a few years ago, that was about as close to "Enough" power as I've ever experienced. Especially with the 911 weighing about as much as a lightened crisp packet.

Points @ sig.

Indeed. Good job I like the air-cooled 911s really.

Heh - Vx Omegas were my training ground - though they weren't that tough - coming out of toddington services got one to cross the white line with the rear wheels first, then when the front bit in the tyre came off the rim - funny as...

Roundabouts - we have some really slippery ones in Hull and they're just fun, though I'm beginning to feel the pinch of £1.20/l fuel combined with

200 quids worth of rear tyres every few thousand miles, may have to calm it for a while...

911s are just odd. Not clever, not sublime, just odd. Having the weight behind the rear wheels means that if you're good you can brake super late for a corner, but the punishment for being just too late is at least a bit of paint and panel work.

Not quite...

1st knock off their VAT you dont have to pay that. 2nd negotiate a good price. Nobody ever pays full price on a mass produced car.

No tax to pay, and no duty, (patience!) lights and shipping and paperwork and shipping cover is 800 quid - just did it a year ago.

No importer. Import it yourself! Its easy. So no profit to be allowed for.

Plus... You can save the import duty and VAT if you do the following. . I just imported a van new. It finished up costing me in dollars the same price one costs here in pounds. Almost exactly half.

First negotiate good price (typically 15 to 18 percent off - cash, no trade in, no messing about) with a dealer that will deliver it tax free as an export (they have a form...) to the shipping company.

Now the price is nowhere near your 47k since there has been about 17 percent knocked off it twice! (actually more since if you add 50 percent to 100 you get 150 so you need to take off a bigger percentage to get back to the original price)

So now you are actually paying not 47k but 34k Dollars. or if you prefer you are paying 17k pounds! Really!

Add 800 or call it 1k shipping insurance lights etc.

So now we are at 18k plus duty and vat. But if you were disabled you (or your freind... hint) were disabled and you fill in a form from the customs and excise you dont have to pay any duty or VAT at all. But the car as well as the purchasers signed form must be for disabled use to qualify. Hence you should get the supplier dealer to fit hand controls in the price.

Now do you see? Of course your disabled freind/wife/neighbour/ my sell it (to you) if he cant "get on with it" very well and import or buy something else. As long as he doesent do too many nobody is bothered.

But even if you do pay duty and tax its much less now because of the lower starting price.

"Burgerman" gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

They don't have VAT. They have a state sales tax, which varies from state to state, usually around 5%. As a result, US prices are always quoted as before tax - so that 47k IS a tax-free price.

How on earth did you leap from 15% discount (which on something "desirable" and limited production is going to be an achievement) to 30% less?

For free?

OK, so not only are you at serious risk of being nicked for fraud, and have a car that you can't actually tax without compounding that fraud, but you've got a car that's got Meccano all over the interior. Woo. Great.

Didn't some people get done for that last year, selling Lambourghinis and Range Rovers and making (IIRC) rather a lot of cash on the side?

Not that I have a problem with it myself, but you wouldn't want to make a habit of it.

Richard

You get used to them after a while. Have to learn their little ways. Soon you learn to only brake heavily in a straight line, to not race Exiges on the twisties, and the exact moment when you can apply all the power on the way out of a bend. When you've done a good few miles in them the rear engine and the mega-traction is a real bonus. Everything else feels plain weird.

A Focus still instills more confidence more of the time, but a 911 is so much fun when everything is going right.

Having said that, I nearly went backwards through a few hedges on the road to discovery...

The US has a glut of cars. A corvette is just a "capri" over there. Prices like 15% or more discount for a cash no trade in purchase is normal.

I didnt know that their tax was (pinched from wicki) as below:

"The effect is that sales tax rates vary from 7.25% (in areas where no additional taxes are charged) to 8.75% (for example, in the city of Avalon, on Santa Catalina Island, in National City, and in Alameda County)."

I just removed a guessed 17.5 as their tax. My figure was 17.5 removed twice (discount plus purchase or sales tax)

And yes its included in your price. And a discount of 15 to 18 percent is normal if you are used to buying new cars with a fight. Not "desireble" unless you are a fool. I just did this a year ago remember...

Hand controls are cheap, if buying a new car and you cant get them to include them then its a couple of hundred squid.

And anyway I upped the shipping to 1k to include any "incidentals"

Nothing illegal here unless that was the original purchasers intent! And thats very very hard to prove. If you bought several the same you might look dodgy but disabled people often cannot get on with or work with stuff they buy. Selling it is quite legit.

and

Err why not? After the original user taxed it free, and decides to sell then the tax is invalid. The new user or owner has to tax it. Its no different to the van I just sold. The buyer had no trouble taxing that.

There is no reason that hand controls mean any meccano that cant be unscrewed when the new owner wants. In some cases they may have to cut a plastic steering column part so you need to replace it. Not exactly breaking the bank in the process is it?

Its possible, and its easy. Even if you do pay the duty/vat its still massively cheaper.

Burgerman.

Yes, and I dont! Its the "habit" that got them in trouble. Doing one (the Vette) isnt an issue.

Hull! Grimsby here... Went to that chinese near the bridge/humber off clive sulivan today with GF and it was good! And cheap and absolutely huge! And run by polish people?????

Please shut up.

You're making me want to import a Dodge Challenger ;)

Richard

I bet you I can drive it to San Francisco by 3pm tomorrow.

Do it.

I am driving a vehicle that costs 53k in the uk RHD and mine cost me 29k all in LHD which you dont even notice after the first ten mins..

One other bit of information, the £400 Gordon tax onluy applies to vehicles that are Type-approved in the UK, SVA'd vehicles are liable for the lower rate of £185.

So all that crap about it being a "tax on 4x4s" falls by the ways side since real gas-guzzling 4x4s like the Excursion are exempt. As indeed are all those footballer's wives Lincoln Navigators.

Mr Chu's China Palace?

John Prescott's favourite place.

"Whenever I go to Mr Chu's in Hull, my favourite Chinese restaurant in the whole world . . . I could eat my way through the entire menu."

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V10 powered Ram it is then...

Yep the same! Very recommended!

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