Are Mustangs too expensive?

Alot has been made of the fact the Mustang is an inexpensive car when you consider it's power. Partly true. Most mfgs. still relegate the powerful engines to higher priced vehicles, their luxury models. But, if you compare a Mustang GT against other vehicles in the same price range, it does not look like such a bargain. For one thing, the cost of the GT or Mach-1 places them into the beginning ranks of others luxury models. Egs; The Acura TL (current model) and the Nissan Murano 4x4. Both these cars price in at around the same price as the GT, give or take a couple thousand dollars. Also, if you go with factory finance plans, the Mustang's higher rate (about 7-10%, depending on buy/lease versus 3-5% for the two other vehicles) pretty much evens up the monthly cost. But, if you look at the appointments of the other two vehicles, they are light-years beyond the Mustang, as is the suspension system and the technology used in the engines. The Murano cockpit is like a fighter plane. Muscle car drivers put an emphasis on guages to provide them with information about the status of the vehicle. How about one that gives tire pressure from inside the car on a read out? Or a powered sun roof, tinted with a solid blind that can be drawn as well? Or basic controls mounted on the steering wheel? I know the arguments about the suspension, solid axel versus independent suspensions. But the Cobra has independent rear suspension and I don't think it harms it's ETs that much. Meanwhile, although the Murano does not have as much horsepower (245) as the GT (260) the Acura does and it's 1/4 mile and 0-60 times are close if not the same as the GT. I think Ford is going in the right direction, providing the new GT with

300hp. Some people will dismiss the accessories provided on the Japanese luxury vehicles as worthless nick-nacks but we should be provided with something to trim up the Mustang to the level of the luxury vehicles. By that I mean, more conveniences (my 1988 LX 5.0 had NO conveniences, but who would want to dispense with basic things like power windows once they've had them?) or better yet, more power. My choice would be for the same level of conveniences as now, with much greater engine output. After all, the current (2004) GT is arguably no faster than the late 1980s LX/GTs despite the claim of more horsepower. The best solution (IMO) would be this: A GT with an aluminum 351 (suitably built) providing 1hp per cu in, naturally aspirated with the Cobra getting a supercharged version. Maybe the Mach-1 (or whatever special they come out with) and the Cobra could get dual cams and 4 valves per cylinder? Horsepower at 350 for the GT, 375 for the "specials" and 450 for the Cobra would be very acceptable.

-Rich

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Richard
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I don't thank so. I bough my new 03 GT last Aug. for about $19,500. Tax and title put it at $21,500. I had given up on getting a new one and was looking used. I went back to one large dealership looking at used ones and didn't find one suitable. They asked if I'd consider new again and I said no because they didn't reach into the price range I was looking for before. They convinced me let them work the numbers again. They didn't meat my expectations so I left. As I was climbing into my car, they stopped me and said they'd swing my offer so I wrote them a fat check : )

The point is that you can get a GT far less than the sticker would indicate if you work them hard ($3,000 rebate helped too). The sticker on mine was $25,280 and is a premium trim model. I doubt you could get either of the vehicles your comparing for anywhere close.

While these luxo cars have the fancy engines, Ford's modular V8 is not exactly antiquated and it proven reliable, versatile and gives respectable fuel economy. The smaller V6's in the Acura and Nissan fall far short in torque especially considering the weight of the vehicles.

Horsepower in passenger vehicles have been climbing northward so the new 05 Stang responds with yet more HP. John

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jriegle

I'm sorry but the last car I bought new was in 1980 for $5300. It was a Toyoto Celica with every thing and it was a good car. I though it was outragiously priced at that time also. I come from at time when you could by the best of American cars was about 4K, so I can't relate to 20K for any new mass produced car.

When we hit the deer a little over a year ago I decided I wanted a new car again. That is until I saw what was out there and the prices. I had sticker shock for sure and almost had a stroke too. I decided to build what I wanted with my recked 90 GT. Now when it is done I will have invested about 2 years of car payments without the interest and it should last me the rest of my natural life. But then at 57 years old you don't expect as much as you did when you are in your 20's. vbg

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Joe Cilinceon

I'm 60 and have also thought about buying a replacement for my 90 LX 5.0. GM had an event here in SoCal where you could drive new cars including the GTO which I drove. When I got in the LX to drive home I thought "the GTO's kinda nice but $33,000 nicer? NOT!"

Dave

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Dave Combs

On 6 Mar 2004 11:49:23 -0800, snipped-for-privacy@rogers.com (Richard) wrote something wonderfully witty:

You forget that they are bought with the balls, not with the head and this absurd amount of logic. You can rationalize yourself into the seat of one, or out of the seat of one. The one thing you didn't include in your analysis is nothing from Japan is a substitute for American Iron soul. Jap cars just don't have it. It's been engineered out. I have been told I am not allowed to use a broadsword to disprove ?The Pen is Mightier than the sword?.

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ZombyWoof

Isn't the TL just another Accord? yech...

The Murano on the other hand reminds me of that cheesy 70's sci-fi movie "The Car". Get one in black with a loud horn and you're set!

John

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John Del

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dwight

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