On Fri, 12 Nov 2010 07:46:17 -0800 (PST), Rich
For quite a while it has looked like all the major manufacturers use
the same design studio. It's like the difference between Pontiac and
Chevrolet, Ford and Mercury, etc. Essentially the same cars with some
It's what I love about driving my 65 Fastback. Even people driving the
late model Mustangs honk, wave, thumbs up, etc. They may have the new
version, but they recognize the ride that theirs copied.
Me too... nothing like driving a classic vehicle with character and
having people tip their hat to you... I remember a few years back a
young boy of Indian descent looked out the window of his family's car
and asked me what I was driving, when I replied a "Mustang" it was like
magic to the kid's ears as well as his eyes and as I drove off he
ducked in and I heard him tell his father "I'm going to drive a car
like that" might be another few years until he can but probably
converted another youngster to stanger!'
As for the Focus, I remember it started out like a 'Jetta' styled coupe
and could have been a real contender if Ford had cheapened out the
interior - I test drove one around 2001 I think it was and was appalled
at the bland interior, got a Ford Escape instead.
Today's Focus... albeit the ones with the alloy rims and smoked
headlight casings actually do look quite sharp, especially in silver...
it's the plain-Jane secretary models that continue to disappoint, but
hey, not everyone can afford a GT.
Styling-wise, almost every manufacturer except Ford [now the Focus
hatch is gone] continues to carve their little hatch-coupes from the
same boring shape... Mazda, Toyota, Saturn, Hyundai, they all have
virtually identical, insipid-looking wedges... and good riddance, I
love to breeze by in the '65 coupe... ah, I sure wish it was summer
I love it. Daughter just picked up a 2008 Focus, a perfect car for her. The
2012 redesign makes her 2008 look dated and appears to out-Mazda Mazda. It's
flawless. Make mine a four door in Yellow Blaze, please!
Ford's going to sell a million of them.
Of course, we must also remember that the original Mustang was
definitely NOT a sports car. As Ford put it, it was a 6 cyl Falcon
with an updated body and just right for secretaries to run around
doing errands like getting the dry cleaning for their bosses. It was
the crazies who turned it into the icon it remains today.
Actually, I think the Mustang broke the mold there... compare the '64
Falcon design to the '64 Mustang design and the Mustang is superior in
styling, curves, fit... Mustang's bumpers wrap into the shape of the
body and fit the flow of the design rather than look like guardrails
bolted to the bottom lip and ass end. People salivated over the design
of the car like no other before and few since, much of that certainly
due to Ford's marketing. But the car was definitely significantly
I think people who bought the 6 cylinders may have been underwhelmed by
the performance, but that's to be expected, and that's why you buy the
8 cylinder as I did in '92 and again in '96. My '65 is a straight 6 but
I still manage to get myself intro trouble ;-) And now I want to put a
late-model 8-cylinder into it so I can continue to enjoy it even more.
Styling-wise, the Mustang was a refreshing break from the bland boxes
that ruled the day, and continues to turn heads everywhere. They
continued to kick ass in '67 and again in '69 with designs that simply
crushed most of the other carmakers.
Could you image buying a '66 fastback, brand new, only to see the new
'67 come out just a few months later?! Same with the '68, and then have
the '69 Mach 1 come out?
The only thing close to this, for me, being a later Mustanger... was
Ford of Canada's launch of the '94 in Oakville. They had 3 GT coupes
and the local club members in groups of three for a scream around the
parking lot. You couldn't wipe the smiles off our faces for days. Would
have been the same for the '04 'cept the concept car they had been
dragging around the shows had already let most of the cats out of the
bag so to speak.
When I drive around I see people lock their eyes onto the car - not
just a hey, look, a classic car, that guy's an idiot for driving that
in zero temp [celsius] weather. But they continue to look only because
the design interests them like few others, it's not just an old car,
it's a Mustang.
Instead of going through the momumental task of changing a '65 from I6
to V8, why not simply get more power out of the the six? While not
really all that feasible in years past, the new aftermarket cylinder
head makes it a reality today. Goto
Classicinlines sells the head.
Here's a recently done '69:
The head and intake look good in the plain aluminium, he just decided topaint his ford blue. Lot's more examples in the forums and on theclassic inlines site.
With this route you'll make the car lighter instead of heavier so you
won't need to change springs and the rest of the suspension... 5 lug set
ups, etc and so forth.. well at least until you want upgrade the
handling, but it still won't be as difficult a job.
Thanks for your input - what I want to do is have a modern EFI engine
which means less maintenance, and the upgraded suspension of a V8, but
more importantly, the V8 burble from the tailpipes! :-)
The classic inlines head and intake supports fuel injection. Your
choice of injectors in the head or throttle body injection. Some have
already done it and they are working on a kit form of it as I understand
My '65 FB (bought in 1970) was a C Code C4 drums power steering and it
I bought this 65 FB in 2002. It's an original straight from the San
Jose assembly line A Code C4, dual exhaust, front disc/rear drum,
manual steering (a beast to park!)
I sold my 66 FB in order to purchase my present 65 FB. The one thing
I see as being missed in the 67 and later was the larger engine bay.
Boy did I know the difference with my 1972 Sprint coupe which I bought
in 1974. And then came the gas crunch!
The 289/302 has plenty of power for me. It's dependable, and it's
economical. Well, with the 4-bbl, it's ecomical when I keep my foot
out of it! LOL
Turkey day I was stopped at a light when a car pulled up on my left. I
glanced over and this child had his face mashed against the window as
he stared in wide eyed amazement
Actually, back in the 60s, hotrodders were doing all kinds of things
to 6 cyl cars, and they raced them. Primarily it's because they
"inherited" the 6 cyl car from the family, and they couldn't afford
jumping up to an 8 cyl.
Today, you go to the drag strip and you see the BIG blocks, but there
is a rising tide of smaller, including 4 cyls. Why? Because a good
share of the challenge for many in racing has been the mechanics of
getting more out of less.
the sound? Mine comes from a) the cam, and b) the exhaust system. A
nice sedate, unobtrusive little rumble which increased horses, but
doesn't kill my neighbors when I start it in the middle of the night.
I have a neighbor across the street who has his machines in the killer