Hello? Someone needs to tell George Pipas, Ford Motor Co.'s top sales analyst to make more damn Shelby GT500's and sell them at MSRP!
Hello? Someone needs to tell George Pipas, Ford Motor Co.'s top sales analyst to make more damn Shelby GT500's and sell them at MSRP!
It was the expectations people had of the name, the car was true to the early version of the GTO.
If it's worthy of the later car (as opposed to the early baracudas that only had thrifty inline 6s), the name won't matter.
Ya, if you are OK with a butt ugly GTO that looks more like a Toyota Camry than anything anyone can imagine as a GTO... I guess you could think that, Ya, OK.... :-(
Zactly...
Ever see an early GTO? Looks like a typical boring sedan of the time period.
Yes, but not a Japanese car of the time.
You're the first person I have ever heard refer to the early GTO's as boring sedans. IMO, they are classics and icons in the history of muscles cars. I drove a 1966 GTO for awhile and thought (still do) it was one of the best looking cars ever produced. A true classic in every sense of the word.
The original GTOs was based off a mass produced chassis from domestic plants that found its way into numerous GM subsidiaries. The last GTO was a Holden import from Australia that had no tie to any other model in GM's domestic lineup. Plus the early GTO was a relatively lightweight vehicle not a porky, over the hill import.
Not hardly. It is a converted left hand drive import. Read up on the early GTOs. There is little in common with the last one.
Are you saying the early Cudas were not note worthy? My cousin hard one and it wasn't a boring car. Well you do think the early GTOs were boring so this opinion isn't much of a stretch for you. I'm glad you agree that the name won't matter. Plymouth Hemi Cuda verses Chrysler Hemi Cuda? Doesn't matter to me.
BINGO!!! Give this man a prize.
If they wouldn't be screwing us loyal Ford Fanatics out of this car, I would now be driving my new Shelby GT500 and my wife would be driving her new "matching" Mustang GT... As it is I refuse to buy one because of their lack of regard for and shitty treatment of their core customers.
There goes another two sales...
Huum...
Read what I wrote again. See the words LOOKS LIKE ?
1964 GTO:
Both slightly gussied up family sedans with more punch.
Not any more than any other 6 cylinder compact.
Well most people would say that six clyinder compacts are. I'm different than most... but if they put out something like they did in 1964 with only 6 cylinder engines it would fail today, don't ya think?
I wrote 'looks boring'. Read for comprehension much?
OK, you're also the first person I have ever heard state the early GTOs LOOK LIKE a boring sedan. Is that better? You're splitting hairs again.
For the period they were stylish. They are still stylish, IMHO. They sold well so they many of the population of the day didn't agree with your statement. Like I said, they are a true classic.
Which family sedan was it "gussied up" from? None sold here in the USA.
If you say so. I guess the early I-6 Mustang was a boring compact too?
You do know that not all of them sported a six cylinder?
I do OK. Reading text from a competent author makes comprehending things somewhat easier.
Plus, I never see any GT500s on the street here. They are just a myth to most people. Maybe if a few more were on the road people might see them and get the urge to visit a Ford dealer to see what's up with the new Mustangs. Heck they may even end up buying one or maybe a 500 or even a Fusion. I guess that concept is lost on Ford's "sharp as a tack" management team.
You can't put them on the road.... they are 'exclusive' to be shrink wrapped for future returns!
I've seen them in person, they look like generic early-mid 60s sedans, maybe some fancier wheels if they are stock.
Then so was a plain base tempest.
6 cylinder falcons sold better.
And you complain about splitting hairs. The holden from which it came.
Whatever floats your boat... remember you're saying they are boring, I am only saying that it isn't special or remarkable. And before you continue this, I'll remind you I have a 250 I6 maverick.... figure it out.
The very early ones did according to the article I read today, and I specifically referenced those making it very clear.
It's me because you can't put two simple words together.
One man's opinion, I guess.
Yes they were. My brother owned one. A convertible. It was a sweet ride with a 326 V-8.
.... and your point is?
You really don't see a major difference between a vintage and the last rendition of the GTO? Amazing! I can tell you one. The vintage one sold well and for a long time. The last one was still born. I wonder why?
Is it boring too?
I guess we have dueling articles. Looks like it came with a 273 CI V-8 in 1964. In 1965 it got a stronger V-8 in its option list. Here's a link:
Well I guess that is better than not being able to put two simple thoughts together. ;)
That wasn't Ford's original plan. Or at least the one they fed us.
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