407 HDI water in diesel

Car was shuddering when idling and acting a bit odd at other times. The service people found that the cause was water contamination of the fuel. Quite expensive to fix - replacing fuel filter and removing tank so all fuel could be purged.

No recent posts on this topic but I found an old 405 one about the "water in fuel' light coming on (which, apparently, meant that the fuel filter needed draining).

No warning lights were triggered by my problem.

Reply to
Ken
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What would bother me is that there's no mention of what they've done to prevent further water ingress. It got in before, it will get in again. The usual (but not the only) suspect would be the seal around the filler cap. Another issue is that it's not just the water that's a problem, bacteria breed in the water and create MGS.

I'm not familiar with the 407, does it have the light you mention?

And does the filter have a capability for draining water? Not usual in cars rather than trucks I know. There may be a case for changing the filter between services as a preventative measure.

Steve

(MGS = Manky Green Stuff.)

Reply to
shazzbat

Of course the water could have been put in with the fuel. It wouldn't be the first time that a filling station let its tank get too low and the water that has separated out at the bottom got mixed into the new fuel. We had a spate of it around here a few years ago. Can't remember which station it was but it was one of the supermarket chains. If this is the case, and you can identify the station, if other people have had the same problem you should be able to claim compensation.

Reply to
Tinkerer

Hi,

Yes, or a car's tank filled just after the gas station's refilling.

There may be a plage of water in fuel here in the next weeks.

Regards,

Reply to
G.T

The only way the water could have got in is with the last fuel refill. I plan to pursue the matter and will report results.

Reply to
Ken

The repair cost about $A500 - mainly labour to remove and clean the tank.

Reply to
Ken

This another example of 'progress'. Fuel tanks once had a drain plug in the bottom. Up to my 505 I understood virtually every element of my vehicle. No longer. On the other hand they do seem to get more trouble- free (fingers crossed!)

Reply to
Ken

The repair cost about $A500 - mainly labour to remove and clean the tank.

Ah, that $A500 means you're in upside-downia, right? I was assuming you were in UK where we have had biblical quantities of rain and snow of late.

Assuming it's been fairly dry for you, then the water is indeed likely to have got in during refilling. But that brings another point. For water to have been in the fuel in sufficient quantity to do this[1], there must also have been many other cases of problems after refuelling at this filling station. Have you heard of any? Anything in the local press? Does your garage know of other cases?

If you try to pursue the matter and there's only one case, they're going to say it's your car, not their fuel.

[1] Because there are several traps and filters which would all have to be full of water before any could get in your tank, assuming a reasonably modern system.

Steve

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shazzbat

In an earlier post I described how a shuddering on idling turned out to be due to water in the fuel - $A477 to repair.

The firm which sold me the fuel paid me the $A477. It took months but they did not dispute the matter.

Reply to
Ken

Good result then. Well done.

Reply to
Tinkerer

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