Question For Nigel or Mark B

I know you two guys work on Peugeots and are very knowledgeable about them. Nigel may remember, from the affair of the Recirculation Motor, that my 406

2ltr HDI 110 is a hybrid. It was built in 1999 and shares parts from the phase one cars with parts from the phase 2 model. I even had to buy two Haynes manuals to cover everything

I have to obtain a replacement front offside (RHD) wheel arch liner and I was wondering whether you can tell me whether the design of this changed between phase 1 and phase 2.

Many thanks for any advice you can give.

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Keith Willcocks
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i'll check the part numbers on laser for you tomorrow keith to see if they are different .I think they may be different but can't be sure as i don't do much service work etc ....my head's up the top by the electrics ;-) all the best keith... p.s.. nigel may know off the top of his head though...

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MARK B pug m.t. via CarKB.com

Yes I believe they are different. The earlier one just does under the wing, and the later one has an extension on it at the front. The extension is there on the early version but is screwed to the liner. The later one has no screws. The extension is part of the liner. As to which one yours is, being a "hybrid", you'll have to get under and look for the screws!! I think to look on laser Keith you will need his VIN number considering the trouble we had with his recirc motor!

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nigel

Thanks Mark. I suspect, from what Nigel said that I probably have the later one. What has happened is that we parked in a car park at Monet's Garden in France and they have this wonderful idea of dividing the parking spaces up by using 4x4 posts abut 6 inches high. Consequently, as my wife reversed out, she turned the steering (as you do) and this post slid nicely between the wheel and wing and ripped the offside valance/bumper off. Miraculously the body panels are undamaged, simply folded back up into position, but the front part of the liner was ripped off. We drove 150 miles back to our hotel with the valance/bumper secured by three camera straps.

If you would double check for me by looking it up I would be extremely grateful and, in line with Nigel's point, here is my VIN number: VF38BRHZE80710298.

Many thanks

Keith

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Keith Willcocks

Thanks Nigel, I really appreciate the way that you and Mark are willing to help people like me. You will see in my reply to Mark that it sounds like I have the later version, you will also see the sad story of what happened. I have given Mark my VIN number, as you suggested, so that I can be certain.

Thanks again,

Keith

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Keith Willcocks

Hi keith yes basically what nigel said is correct.The early type has 3 parts front arch part ,rear arch part and a flap which is screwed to the front part which is directly underneath the washer reservoir .But after build code 8610 the front arch and the flap come as one .Even though it changes the way it comes i.e. in 2 pieces as opposed to 3 they can be swapped from either vehicle .which ever one you order it will fit its just that ones in 2 pieces and the others in 3. all the best mark

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MARK B via CarKB.com

as you guys seem to be hot with peugeots. running a 306 diesel that seems to have a clonk or clicking noise when braking. have checked all the suspension and its been thru an mot without a problem. have 226k on the clock and no power steering. its very disconcerting, but i cant seem to find the problem. can you help cheres

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slimback

Hi,

Not being Mark or Nigel, I'll try something...

Perhaps the sound comes from the front calipers / pads, then.

Regards, G.T

205 Diesel & turbo-Diesel :
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G.T

Yep, GT, just what I was thinking. I believe that the mounting bolts for the caliper run through metal bushes and wear causing a sort of clicking noise. Peugeot do a kit of two bushes and four rubber seals with special grease. You need one kit per side.

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nigel

No probs, Keith. I guess you were lucky that the damage was confined to just the liner. Hopefully it won't cost too much!

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nigel

Hi,

But it should not affect braking capacity I think ? These last months my '93 205 used to click from left-front caliper when brakes were warmed up a little (for example, after some city driving). I have to say I don't really use my brakes - a good proof is the amount of rust I have on my discs ;-)

One mystery I still haven't been through is I suffered from a front brakes disbalancing (measure at "MOT" reported 25%), from what I feel is now solved - I haven't done anything else than changing my timing belt. (fit myself).

You see, cars are like women : they still have a part of mistery - could explain why I love cars just a bit less than I love girls :-)

Regards, G.T

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G.T

According to your VIN number you should have the two piece type (the one with the screws). I think you said you have the one piece type, so the hybrid strikes again!! Anyway here are the numbers and prices.

Seperate type 7136A0 9.79 Joined together type 7136L5 8.10

No, I don't know either why the bigger one is cheaper!

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nigel

No, I don't think the efficiency is affected at all.

And when you get to my age they are a lot less hassle than women!!

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nigel

Hi,

I don't know. Being waterproof and stainless, surprisingly I'm not designed to get old ;-)

Regards, G.T

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G.T

Thanks Nigel. Actually I was wrong on my first look at the other side and the VIN number is correct, it is a two parter. I am amazed at the price, I thought it would be quite expensive (like most Peugeot parts)

Couldn't get back to you sooner as we have been touring Scotland after making a temporary (and obviously successful) repair to the front end.

Thanks again, your help is always appreciated.

Keith

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Keith Willcocks

If this a clicking as you apply the brakes (rather than in synch with the rotation of the wheel...), then I had something similar in my 205, and it turned out to be that the bearing surface upon which the pads slide was rusted up, so the pads moved in a slip-stick motion. Cleaning and greasing the surfaces solved the problem, although I have to re-do it every year or so.

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