Gents...I am out. Gone to the darkside.

Nov 11, 2005 29 Replies

:> Can *YOU* show me a 2005 article that says the Seattle metropolitan area :> with :> a population of 3.8 million has as much traffic as Chicago areas 9.2 :> million?

: See, that's one thing wrong with your believing those articles. I *CANNOT* : show you a 2005 study, because, guess what, 2005 isn't over, and : peer-reviewed : scientifically-valid studies (like the Texas A&M one) aren't cherry-picked : over a portion of a year, a particular area, etc., and take a year or more : to be prepared and peer-reviewed.

Well.. the point is... your article published in 2002 is based on 2001 or earlier data... the articles from 2005 are published with earlier data too, but later than what you've quoted... so your question of how can CNN have

2 different stories on their website... it's easy... just look at the years that are embedded in the URLs or at the top of the stories... you knew your data was older from the start, yet you posted it to counter newer data.

: I have driven in Chicago, and agree that it's traffic is nasty. At least : some : of the people are, too, IME. But we have nasty traffic and people, too. : A higher percentage on the roads, possibly, as we have *proportionally* : less mass transit, so the yahoos with junkers and a bad attitude are on : the roads rather than on the L.

Eh... I don't buy it... a town (yes a town) of 600k can't compete with the traffic woes of cities like New York, Los Angeles or Chicago... sure we have the L, but the traffic pattern isn't like it used to be with everyone working in the loop... the burb roads are as bad as the Kennedy now, except the Kennedy is still as bad as ever...

But... it's quite easy to drive a stick shift car daily in those environments, even in the snowy envirnments of New York or Chicago...

So... are there more comfortable cars out there to commute in... sure, but don't blame it on the commute, just admit your a wuss that went for comfort ;-)

It's ok... but accept responsibility instead of blaming the car or the city...

;-)

In alt.autos.porsche Devils944S2 wrote: :

Ummm...okay, I'll say it: that's Bimmer. Beamers are the cycles.

Haven't followed the whole thread but the essence is correct:

You have wussed out.

Just put in 5w30 and put the snow tires on my '44. It's good for all conditions.

Did you consider keeping the P-car and commuting in an older Suzuki Swift? :p

Devils944S2 wrote:

would that be Owego?

I guess that's what you get for not reading the whole thread...Is your 944 an S2 Cabriolet? Does it have the heavy duty clutch like mine had? If I had my old 1984 N/A maybe, but, my 40 mile, 2.5 hour commute was painful in the S2. If you do the average, you will see I crawl to work at around 15MPH. Yes, of course I thought of getting a commuter car...which of course I would have to insure (Washington is friggin expensive) at the same liability levels as my 944 and Explorer, so now I could eat a nice $1600 every 6 months insurance bill. Actually, me and the Mrs. are looking north to Issaquah and Redmond for a place, then maybe down the road I can get another cab.

In alt.autos.porsche The Dead Senator wrote: : Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote: :>

:> focus has done respectably in the world ralley championship... :> :> Enjoy your beamer... :-)

: Ummm...okay, I'll say it: that's Bimmer. Beamers are the cycles.

I had to go look it up... it appears Beemer can be used for both, but Bimmer is for cars only... why? I have no idea... anyway, I mispelled it either way.

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says;"... A Very Highly Placed BMW Spokesperson sent me the following (reproduced here with permission). While I can't point to any official document that supports this, my understanding of the origins are as follows.

The term Beemer was first used with motorcycles. Back when British bikes dominated the market and BSA was a well-known marque, riders referred to them as Beezers -- a way to say the letters BSA as if it were a word.

BMW riders said Beemer as a way of saying BMW as a word. This was long before the popularity of BMW cars, so whenever the term Beemer was spoken, it referred to the motorcycle. In theory, one could apply Beemer to either cars or bikes since it is only a reference to the name BMW. In fact some folks do call BMW cars Beemers.

When the cars became popular, many people referred to them as Bimmers as well as Beemers. I don't know why this was adopted instead of simply using the existing Beemers.

But generally speaking, one calls the bikes Beemers and the cars Bimmers. While it would be ok to refer to a car as a Beemer, it doesn't seem appropriate to refer to a bike as a Bimmer. ..."

This is like the Porsche one-syllable/two syllable pronunciation thing - I never bother correcting people since I know what they mean, but I'll explain the difference if it comes up (usually if I've got a copy of "Bimmer" magazine on my desk or coffee table). epbrown

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