Daytime running lights...what's the deal?

Back in the '70's I read something from an insurance company that indicated daytime accidents were significantly reduced by using the headlights in the day to be seen better. I was driving a Saab 99 LE at the time, and I noticed the headlight switch was connected to the keyswitch - I put 2 and 2 together and realized the intent on Sab's behalf. I started driving this way, and every day dozens of cars would flash their lights at me, thinking I had "forgotten" my headlights, and that they were saving me from a dead battery situation!

Years later, driving in Sweden and Denmark, this made much more sense, as the sort of semi-dusk that prevails there through half the year easily explains why all cars there are wired this way, and everyone drives with lights on all the time.

I believe this use is much more pertinent in places like this than say southern California, where it's blazing sun every day - people will hardly see your lights - nevertheless it is a good practice to bear in mind. In fact, it is now the law in Italy, and will soon be in France as well.

The reason the DRL position doesn't allow the high beams is that you may not be aware you have them on (you cannot se the effect of course, and the little light on the panel may not jump out at you in daylight conditions eitjher) but it could still be aggressive to others, particularly as dusk approaches. The "flash" function remains available as this is how Europeans get others' attention - not only to pass them, but for any reason. Sometimes it's used to say "I see you, and I'm letting you go ahead of me". Other times it means 'Look out, I'm not stopping". You have to understand which is meant!!

Now I notice in New England, where everyone used to flash at me for driving with my lights on 30 years ago, many many cars are driving this way, and no one sees it as odd any more. At present, I always drive this way, unles it is a very bright sunny day, in which case I turn them off and probably save a few drops of precious fuel.

GF

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Greg Farris
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Quite true, but it certainly improves your odds dramatically.

Reply to
Fred W

It's a bit like sitting on a train and some wild or drunk passenger tries to get himself noticed. You probably best look the other way and avoid eye contact at all cost.

Reply to
Johannes

I think a lot of this has to do with the stupidity of 'reverse logic' in lighting design which sees modern car front lights have everything integrated into one unit, and the headlights are often two seperate lamps which means not only is there more to fail, but when something fails you often have to replace the entire cluster and they're very expensive. Then again I'm sure that when new, classic 900 headlights (since they are unique and not used on any other make/model of car) priced out at a bit dollar figure. Especially the H4 e-code lights which were used all through Europe and here in Oz, but not in the US/Canada until the 'facelist' 900's appeared.

Craig.

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Craig's Saab C900 Site

I did the same with my '97 900. In addition to the other issues noted about having the headlights on whenever the ignition is on, there are two situations I frequently encounter when having headlights on at night is considered extremely poor judgement:

  • when driving near a group of amateur astronomers at a star party
  • when approaching the guard station for a military facility

Astronomers don't like it because it takes only an instant for the human eye to lose its dark adaptation (for examples, watch any decent war movie scene on the bridge of a navy ship at night; that's why red lamps are used). Recovering dark adaptation takes far, far longer.

And military guards -- especially these days -- tend to get a bit testy if a car approaches them at night with bright lights that make it impossible to see what's going on in side the car. I was reminded of this because shortly after I bought the car I had to drive onto the grounds of the Naval Observatory -- where the Vice-President's residence is located. Double whammy...and a prompt trip to the dealer.

Joe Morris

Reply to
Joe Morris

What's done in Canada where the headlights with the ignition are required and have been for 20 years or so?

Reply to
Everett M. Greene

That's not an issue - they don't have a Vice President.

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- Bob -

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