Not 100% clear if this includes Saab

It doesn't. Saab & Opel are completely separate.

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Balo gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Saab has never been part of GM Europe.

Really ? I never knew that. Best luck to them anyway. I did sign up to a group of Saab supporters a while back. If you could get rid of the 'suits' and the MBAs draining the blood of the business, maybe you could make a great car company of them again. It's not as if they lack the technology, good engines, great ergonomics etc etc !

Graham

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Eeyore gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

No, they were directly under the control of the US.

None of this is exactly news, though - anybody with even the _slightest_ interest in the ownership of Saab really does need to read SaabsUnited.

Not completely true. Saab is actually owned by GM Canada.

Cite?

Regardless, the Opel deal has nothing to do with Saab (At least not yet).

Saab is Svenska Aeroplan AB (or translated to english, Swedish airplanes Inc.). From 1990 the car producing part was moved to SAAB automobile.

th gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The ownership was through the Canadian side, yep, but the control came from Detroit.

Either way - it's nowt to do with Opel...

Source: Gunilla Gustavs, Saab Automobile spokeswoman, quoted 27 May in several Swedish newspapers.

How on earth are they going to deal with the Opels built in Saab plants and vice-versa ( if I have that right ).

And what of the Cadillac BLS ( not that they've made many ) ?

Graham

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Eeyore gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

The tooling for the new 9-5 is being moved from Russellsheim to Trollhatten.

The BLT had already been killed due to terminal disinterest.

The 9-4x will still be built alongside the Cadillac sister in Mexico, effectively under contract.

I dunno about the 9-7x - presumably, likewise.

The 9-7x is already dead. Production ended in December 2008.

One can only hope that with the split from GM that they will cancel the 9-4x too.

me gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Why? It won't sell well in Europe - it may not even be sold over here - but it'll be hotcakes in the US, Saab's biggest market.

But it's GM intellectual property surely not Saab ? So GM would have to pay Saab a licence fee to put a Saab badge on it.

Graham

p.s incidentally I read somewhere recently that the UK is Opel's biggest market.

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Eeyore gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying:

Or vice-versa.

But, no - I think a lot of the dev was Swedish, so it's the Caddy-badged one that'll be getting licenced. Probably as a part of the production deal.

Even assuming Vx = Opel, I'd be surprised.

SUV's are not selling well in the US right now. Whether or not they will recover is a 50/50 bet. The Saab SUV has never exactly been a hot seller anyway, although the 9-4x has a better shot at the "crossover" market. At least that POS 9-7 rebadged Chevy is gone for good!

It's built in Mexico at a GM plant. Whether that sort of arrangement survives is an interesting question.

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According to Saab it will....

It surprised me too.

Graham

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