Yeah...why?? I belive it was Sweden that was the first country to
make Daytime Running Lights mandatory. Canada followed suit for the
1990 model year. Tests have shown it is indeed a good, idea resulting
in less accidents.
As OujdeivB noted below, this is a trick.
Just what models of Studebaker have daytime running lights?
It does remind me of a story, though. One of our favorite customers at the
motorcycle shop had a Laverda 1000, took immaculate care of it, and rode
down from Detroit maybe twice a year for some little maintenance item.
Laverdas were one of the earlier bikes to use a "black box" cast-in-plastic
ignition, where there's nothing to go wrong and that's good because you
couldn't fix it if it did. When Michigan passed the motorcycle running
light law, there was a lot of discussion of whether your battery would stay
up with your lights lit all day, so many people installed little-bitty
auxiliary lamps to satisfy the law. Our guy's good-buddy shorted that
sucker just the once and did in his $multihundred ignition module. You
could short out BSA's all day long and not do any damage that wasn't built
in at the factory. Was his face ever red.
I remember that option being a bit of a fad at the time. My dad's '64
Plymouth wagon had the optional running light. As I recall, Dodge
later had a running light as standard built into the driver's side of
the grille on the full-size cars in 1969/70 known as the 'Superlight'.
subaru had a center light too. hidden high beem only. one year only i
As for the shut off of the day lights....put your e- brake on just as
little as you can. they should turn off. the brakes may engage (or not)
but the lights should go out. if they do just go looking for the light
shut off parts under there some where. one wire usually does it.
if you get it right the e-brake light on the dash MAY not stay on.
Your ins. company may not cover you if you trash the car and they
discover your fiddling.
leave it alone.
if the car is a GM unit the best thing to do is sell it. Rich
I remember that passing light Subuaru's had under the center emblem
around 1982 or so. At least that's what Subaru called it; more of a
common practice in Europe on the high-speed Autobahns, Autostradas,
Motorways, et al where one flashes their lights twice before passing a
99 chevy malibu, i have seen the facts sure it reduces accidents by a
fraction of a percentage. The darn lights turn on when i odnt want
them, its a good feature so you dont forget to turn them on but i hate
having them on all the time, its ugly, having the car for a while makes
the gas add up, and a little extra wear on the bulbs and alternator
isnt needed. Would just taking out the DRL fuse solve the problem or
cause more of them?
Headlights on are ugly. The bulbs and alternator will wear out faster.
Might as well take out those heavy airbags while you're in there. Bumpers,
who needs them... they only work if someone hits you and the car will be
So if I disconnect my daytime driving lights my gas mileage will go up???
I doubt it would cause a problem. Maybe one day, a loaded semi truck will pull
out to pass
another one while heading West into a setting sun, and the driver will fail to
see you or
your beater Malibu because the daytime running lights are off, and you and your
become a grease spot on the highway.
Like I said, no problem. <G>
Gord is right <G>
Now, wear and tear? hmmm...I doubt that its anything major.
1987 Mercury Tracer, DRL, one alternator/two batteries in 308,000 km 11
years, used for city delivery for years, equivalent to 500,000 tough km
1994 Pontiac Sunrunner, DRL, 10 years two alternators (replaced at
366,000km)/one battery, 397,000 km
2000 Pontiac Sunfire, DRL, one alternator/one battery, 90,000 km 3 years
1994, Toyota Corolla, DTL, one alternator/two batteries, 288,000 km 13 years
Headlights/DRL marker lights are cheap! Hospitals are expensive.
Cemeteries are forever. Usually the headlights (and the lesser used high
beams at that) are on a lower volt circuit so the filaments last a
loooong time. And it is just the headlights, not all the lights, so not
much additional wear n tear at all. They have saved my bacon MANY times.
Of course, if you always drive on divided or multi-lane highways, you
might never appreciate them. But on windy, narrow two lane highways they
give you a real good idea especially in marginal weather/dawn/dusk/
bright sunshine in your eyes/cloudy/foggy/rainy days just how far
away/how fast that vehicle is coming on.
Of course, the DRL circuit used in GM products is a frigging nightmare.
Designed to p*** you off when it acts up/fails, which it will.
Jim Bartley on PEI
Gordon Richmond wrote:
I have to say that I hate the implementation of GM DRLs as well. High
beams? come on... ever drive towards a Saturn around dusk when the
driver hasn't turned his headlights on yet? Blinding glare... and then
the ones that use the turn signals? Whose brilliant idea was that?
takes a full cycle of the directionals to figure out exactly what the
other driver is trying to tell you (assuming, of course, he uses them
at all) IMHO if you want DRLs just run your low beams all the time,
works out better that way.
AFAIK the American auto industry lobbied NHTSA to allow some of the
more questionable implementations of DRLs even though NHTSA's own
studies showed they were a bad idea...
At least they finally got their act together recently; my '05 Impala
uses the low beams for the DRLs. They haven't done that across the
board though; the Malibu and some trucks still use the directionals.
Haven't seen too many new high beam ones though which makes me happy.
Were they really concerned about safety rather than simply the
perception of safety, IMHO, they would have used dedicated DRLs with
lower-wattage bulbs than the headlights rather than trying to tack that
function onto some other existing equipment, like they did with the
Chevy pickups a few years ago.
Those damned driving lights are damned dangerous. If you have ever
driven in the fog you would know. Hell you can't pull off the road and
idle without worrying that some A hole will run over you assuming that
you must be on the road.
And for the light on bull on my bike more bullsh@t. I used to ride a
Honda......now that I ride a vintage Triumph and look the part when I
ride drivers pay more attention. Just because the headlight on is the
law does not mean that it works. Old bikes that were made before the
law simply do not have enought generating capacity at idle to keep the
main lights on. I sure would not want to be driving a vintage car with
the lights on all the time too especially when running defrosters and
N8, my '96 Suburban ( a U.S. model, too) uses the low beam headlamps at full
DRLs. Fed through a diode, which is the weak point in the system. IMNSHO, they
stuck with the high-beam lamps, wired in series, which means they illuminate at
brightness. They can be seen a long way off, but don't get bright enough to
One or two cheap DPDT relays could convert my lamps to the latter scheme, at
than the big diode in it's nifty extruded aluminum heat sink.
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