100% MSRP Subaru Promotion

You could just always sell it privately and get what you think its worth. If its in good shape and well maintained alot of people will pay a premium for a nice used subie. Hell I just paid 5k for a really nice 98 OBW ( really its cherry), check out the local markets and see what they will bear.

Trade-ins are always a rip-off and car dealers always lie, whats the surprise here?

Not trying to be confrontational , but you are complaining about things that are known constants.

just my .02

/fish puts on his +2 cloak of unflameability

p.s. dealers no longer want you to BUY cars anyhow as they make so much more off leases, so Subaru dealers have to be a lil extra skeevy to compete due to the vehicles longevity. Not defending it ... just stating an observation

I think the market penetration for Subaru is very low which is reflected by overinfalted resale. Many people want it but can't afford it. Especially in the snowbelt. Here in the sunbelt the market is extremely competitive. Is they want to get in they'd have to compete head to head with fun cars like GTI, Civic Si and EVO. FHI just would've been better off giving up on california and concentrate on making a subcompact to slice under impreza and to be sold in high volume to the lower income families in the north. Not sure if they want to sell to the truck drivin yokels thou.

It's the dealer. The rest is no better. Consider it an IQ test that you passed. Wrong reason to dump Subaru.

There is no such thing as a good deal from a dealer. The theories about demographics and sales and what competes with what doesn't float either. so .... you get ripped off by idiots.

Not true.

I used to think like you did, and when I went to buy a late model used subaru and found out there hardly are any that owners are willing to part with and those that are out there aren't hardly much less than a new one... I took the plunge.

And between Consumer Reports new car pricing service, edmunds.com pricing that matched to the penny, having several local dealers to play off each other for my business, and carbuyingtips.com to learn about holdback, factory to dealer incentives, then all the add-ons and dealer isntalled options where the dealer would try to make money off you and how to head it off... I left the experience feeling like I've never every purchased any commodity item where I had such perfect knowledge of what the seller paid for the item.

The dealer made a few hundred bucks on the sale and I had a brand new fully warranted vehicle with no question marks about how well or how poorly the prior owner had maintained it.

So buying new isn't always the wrong thing to do. The cost per year of owning the vehicle may actually be less than buying late model used.

However all that said, the subaru 100% msrp promotion is quite dubious

-- that per mile charge adds up for so many potential trade-in folks.

Best Regards,

-- Todd H.

don't be. used jap car is usually a terrible value. And on the new cars dealers pocket much less than on the used ones.

Yep, there CAN be great dealer experiences. Ryan at Teape Subaru in Hurst matched online s'less brakeline prices and 'almost' matched online wagon-spec STi spring prices(maybe did match with shipping figured in), got me a loaner AND knocked a surprising amount off the labor rate while the parts were being installed. I was gonna save the brakelines to do myself until he told me the 'special' labor rate.

I have used an indie mech as well, once with parts from an online OEM dealer. If nothing else, give ur local dealer the chance to match parts prices.

A LOT depends on the folks running the joint.

Carl

Do all the research you can. The internet is a great tool and can save many $. We just bought a 2007 Outbact 2.5i and had a very good experience w/dealer, Invoice - $1500.00 rebate. They keep the holdback and other juice and we get a pretty good deal. Check Edmunds, ect.

You are free to take the sucker's bet and buy used. The profit margin is far greater on a used car so the dealer usually makes more. Little or no warranty and no knowledge of car's history. Used cars are for kids and the poor. I usually keep my new cars for at least eight years so I dont really worry about the "drive off the lot depreciation " myth. This will likely be my last Subaru as well but mostly for design issues.