99 OBW Clutch linkage problem. Advice?

I bought a used '99 2.5L 5-speed OBW in '01. My clutch pedal loses it's ability to disengage the clutch as the car warms up. I suspect the master cylinder in the hydraulic clutch linkage.

Within a year of purchase, I noticed a problem with the clutch pedal, but more likely, a problem with the hydraulic linkage. The pedal does not return all the way up to it's upper clutch-engaged position. Everything operates correctly cold, but this condition develops as the car warms up and the clutch is operated more. Consequently, I almost never experience this condition in New England winters, but it develops very quickly on hot summer days in stop/go traffic or city driving when I am shfting a lot. Not suprisingly, I bought the car in February, so I never would have caught it during the test drive. Hmmmmm. At first, the pedal is just reluctant to pop back up over the over-center position of the pedal return spring. Eventually, the condition degrades to the point where I can not fully disengage the clutch and what action there is occurs in the bottom 2-3" of travel and the pedal only returns about half way. I doubt a worn clutch plate is the cause of this condition, but I'm sure that it is an effect.

I suspect one of the hydraulic cylinders is leaking (by-passing). The fluid becomes thinner as it warms up. Each time I operate the clutch, a little more leaks arround the cylinder leaving less in the line between the cylinders, until eventually, there is not enough left in the line to move the clutch plate adequately. If unused for a while, the fluid is eventually drawn back around the leaky cylinder by the clutch pedal return-spring pulling on the master cylinder end.

I think it is the master cylinder attached to the pedal, and I am just about to order one and try to replace it.

I have not ruled out air in the line or dirty fluid, nor have I pursued that theory, but I have a hard time explaining this condition by air or fluid condition.

Does anybody have any advice? Has anybody seen this condition.

Pete

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AnotherGreenSubi
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I had a problem similar to this on my 5-speed jeep. It would do the same thing, except it would leak in the winter and not in the summer. Go figure.

If you have a hydraulic clutch, you have both a master and a slave cylinder. The condition you have described is possible, fluid can leak past the seal and the clutch will not disengage, alternately, the fluid can leak past the cylinder altogether and drip out on the ground.

Inspect the area where the master cylinder meets with the firewall on both sides. See if you can see fluid leaking. As for the slave cylinder, the one on my jeep was INSIDE the transmission housing near the clutch assembly, which meant disconnecting the transmission from the engine to service the slave cylinder. I am not sure how the OBW is set up. You might be able to access it from outside the transmission housing.

Do have fluid dripping on the ground from under the transmission?

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Henry Paul

Don't know if your model has the hill holder but I had exactly the same symptoms and it was a maladjusted hill holder at fault. I have a 2000 OBLW and after a proper adjustment and grease (and a full flush of clutch fluid just in case) it has not caused me any trouble in 6 months.

I thought I was going to need a whole new clutch - was quite happy to find it was a cheap and easy solution.

Every time the car got hot, the pedal would eventually end up stuck on the floor and I'd have to pull over, let the car cool down and then get going again.

Hope this helps

Gerard...

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Gerard

What a coincident - I was going to post the same question today about my MT clutch and high temps. I live in a hot climate and noticed when the temp climes above 105F, the clutch engages/disengages very low to the floor and the pedal also does not return to the top. The problem goes away again in the AM when temp drop, but then returns in the afternoon when temps climb again. This is the first hot summer I have had this problem, and it just had it's 32K service performed. The dealer where I have it serviced is somewhat out of the way, so is there an adjustment or fluid that can I can check first?

Thanks for any advice ('01 Forester, 33K miles)

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Mike

I have the same problem on my '99 OBW. I believe I have found the Subaru technical service bulletin which addresses this problem on several manual Subaru models. It's TSB 03-52-03 and it involves replacing the clutch hose and clutch operating cylinder.

You can print a copy from here:

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camss

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