I am too lazy to look through the reponses to your original query but I would point out that both Subaru models, all of them actually, are full time four wheel drive. I lived in Northern Virginia and found the Subaru performance in snow and ice to be superior to anything in a similar price range. On snowy workdays I would simple back down the (25 degree) driveway and drive off. Neighbor is just getting his first part of his drive shoveled off.