Torx bits twisting

Jun 09, 2013 39 Replies

I'm pretty sure that the Proto Allen sockets that I used years ago when I was actually paid to work with tools were either set-screw or roll pin as well, but I have no idea if a) my memory of 15 years ago is correct or b) if the current product is the same.

I really should have taken them with me when I left that job, along with the Heyco open-end wrenches, damn honesty and conscience. In retrospect the "tool deposit" that they took out of my paycheck would have never covered what I could have bought the contents of my toolbox for as a consumer, but again, I would have felt wrong doing someone over like that - I left because of a desire to relocate, not that there was any acrimony between me and my employer.

nate

wild.. I've never seen a roll-pin used either. The Snap-On ones I have seen and used aren't like that GW

Can't you still get a box wrench on them? I've used ratcheting box wrenches sometimes in tight spots, without removing the bits.

could be wrong, but i think they're confusing the removable "screw bit holder" type with the dedicated torx drive type. the latter are permanently fitted and intended for higher torque applications.

I've got set-screw, roll-pin, and press fit - or whatever they use to hold them more or less permanently. They all fail eventually if you use them for your job. The replaceable bits were good for the lifetime warranty tools mfr's. They could save a few cents by replacing only the bits.

I was thinking of these:

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which come out with a punch, or the Craftsman ones that look almost identical from a short distance, but come out by pulling hard...those have an internal spring clip like on the outside of an impact. I looked up S-K mentioned earlier and those look the same...no pin or screw. GW

them at the Lowe's store two or three years ago. Two of the bits, a piece of each bit broke off in the Philips head screws. It says on the back of th e package, Made in China.

The gauge of the 3 or 4 wires carrying power to the 7-8 kilowatt Bosch ceramic cooktop from the owen (+control module) is about 1 to 1.5 square millimeters

there is no longer zinc in oneida colonial classic set

it's uncommon for the brushes on indesit washing machines to last under a 1(one) year

welcome to the world of cutting corners (and sometimes getting away with it)

root cause of the problem customers say they want quality but then they go out to find cheapest crap there is

or so seems to be the perception among the manufacturers

replaced under nqa warranty or you (trying to be responsible?) ate the cost ?

The Snap On ones I have are a mix. The 1/2 drives are 2 piece with a small roll pin, the 3/8 are split with the larger ones being pinned and the smaller ones pressed, the 1/4 drive are all press fit.

I have an old Bosch barrel handle style electric jigsaw. Last year when I w as using it outside in my dirt/gravel driveway the little bitty set screw t hat holds the blade in place, the set screw flew out and got lost. I got my real powerful big old magnet and I found that set screw. Since that happen ed I keep a piece of masking tap over the hole to stop the set screw from f lying out of the top hole of the round knob on top of the jigsaw. A lot of my tools I bought them at pawn shops years ago. They are very good American made old tools of various brand names. Sometimes you can find some good de als at pawn shops and save a lot of money too.

It was my fault for laying on it with the big impact like I did so I ate the cost and bought another one.

the china made tools we sell have 3 different warning labels on them.

  1. This product contains lead.
  2. The state of California has determined this product contains a substance known to cause cancer etc.
  3. Wash hands after using this product.

Well, if you coughed up the dough for a 36volt impact wrench you are expected to also buy a less capable one to work smaller fasteners?

sure, I'm just thinking of the exceedingly rare case where clearance is too tight to fit the whole socket in. I know I've seen it happen but I can't remember where (A-pillar trim on my Jeep maybe?) but I do remember that I was saved because I had a Klein 10-in-1 that had the appropriate sized Torx bit in it and I was able to use that.

nate

Over the years, I've seen it often enough. It's probably not even "exceedingly" rare now that I think about it. A little rare...

a Jeep Chrokee oil filter adapter comes to mind. IDR what year or engine it was.

GW

I know what you mean, pretty much all of the 4.0's. Mine is the same way; I have an "allen key" style Torx "wrench" for that job.

I *think* I can actually use one of my sockets with a breaker bar but not the ratchet to break it loose. But not possible to run the bolt all the way out like that.

nate

yeah, that's the one. I have just the Snap-On "replacement bit" for the T-60 torx socket...used it with a box wrench and a cheater bar.....or I was going to...IIRC we ordered the seal but the customer never came back. Probably too poor or "busy" to fix oil the leak. We get a lot of that here.

GW

Hah. I ordered the seal kit but discovered that all the oil all over my engine was apparently 45% valve cover and 45% previous sloppy oil changes... the OF housing still seeps but I keep forgetting to grab the seal kit every time I go to change the oil.

nate

the "sloppy oil changes" made me laugh. I recently looked at a 3.0 Ranger for an oil leak and found that the wire loom to the starter had at least an ounce of oil in it. Oil filters above starters is just retarded.

GW

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