How to disable 2002 Sienna daytime running lights?

Is this for installing HID lights? I hear there's a wiring harness for this, after googling around a bit.

If someone works at a place that has a guard gate staffed by armed guards, and a large sign at the kiosk states: "Dim Lights!" (like a defense plant), then you'd damn-sure want to turn off those headlights when approaching that kiosk!

They THINK they have the eyes of eagles.

Good idea.

Why?

Only a dimwit wouldn't know that that sign means, turn your high beams off.

It doesn't mean "turn all headlights all the way off".

If it's night and you have your lights on, you can't dim them.

Many manufacturers have gone away from using the regular headlights at all, and are using something auxiliary to achieve the desired affect.

OK, that's not a fault or failure of the DRLs; that's a failure of the driver, who is too stupid to realize that he can't see his dashboard because it's dark and he doesn't have his lights on.

The same guy would drive around without his headlights even if he didn't have DRLs, because he's not looking AT ALL at his dashboard and he can see the road well enough via the streetlights.

Got that right. Same stupid puds that don't know a quicky blinking turn singlal on one side means a rear light is out and a solid light means the front bulb is out.

Yep.

Only those who have been though such checkpoints know what that means, apparently and he's not one of them.

Because he want's to drive around like a gangsta.

When is there a need to turn them off at all, let alone "often"?

How do they contribute to accidents?

Sat-nav systems are not a required device either, but I can't get some cars without the dad-blasted things.

So it's a decision by the manufacturer whether or not to include DRLs, just like any other feature.

That doesn't spell out why it should be illegal NOT to offer a way to turn them off.

"not been shown to reduce collisions" is a FAR cry from "causes accidents", which is your other assertion.

Please clarify.

If your clarification is nothing more than "I don't like them," then just say so.

I can see this is hopeless to expect much from the discussion.

In fact the military installation I drive on to has a sign that says 'PARKING LIGHTS' only when approaching the gate. If one has trouble understanding why there is a distinction then you likely should be doing something other than hanging out in Usenet groups riding around on your high horses condemning others.

As for the naysayers on the 2008 NHTSA study. It is available at: www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811029.pdf (3MB - a great read) Read the entire document if you care, or simply check the Executive Summary paying particular attention to the phrase in Summary of Results stating, "A negative effectiveness suggests that DRLs might have unintended adverse effects." There are more negatives in the results than positives, particularly when you read deeper into the body of data.

Ya and the MP's know what driving lights are so the rest of your bullshit is exactly that; BULLSHIT.

Aha.

So the original claim of "dim lights when approaching" is NOW being changed to "parking lights only".

So black is now white?

Now let me ask you this: if the car is equipped with DRLs, does that mean the gate MPs will haul you off to federal prison for not complying with this particular sign?

But the claim on the table is "causes accidents".

Again, black is white in your world.

And none has seat belts, either. Your point?

Oh--if your point is that "I've never had an accident and therefore I don't need that particular feature," you sound like the idiot you are.

In high school I dated a girl whose family never used seat belts--and in fact swore AGAINST them. Why? Because one time in an old 60-something Chevy mom and dad were in an accident where the steering wheel got forced backwards and impaled the front seatback. And boy, if dad had been wearing a seat belt, he wouldn't have been able to scoot over on that bench seat and get out of the way, and he woulda been KILT.

Ergo, seat belts are universally BAD.

You, sir, belong to that family.

In message , Elmo P. Shagnasty writes

In the EU. All cars type tested after Feb 2011 must have DRLs.

Military installations are all standardized on what is and is not allowed and perm DRL are allowed without issue. He's _LYING_.

Yeah, but the EU prohibits ugly carrots and bananas with too much curve. And they just declaredthe water was not a remedy for dehydration.

But... was she cute? =3D)

damn skippy she was.