Problems with proportioning valve on 89 4x4 22re

Dec 05, 2004 5 Replies

While getting an emission inspection, I discovered that my rear brakes were not working. After checking my lines back from the rear drum, I discovered that I am not getting in pressure from the proportionng valve to my rear drums. I have some questions:


  • Is it possible, that the valve is functioning, but it simply thinks that their is no weight in the rear? If so, what is the procedure for adjusting/calibrating it?


  • If it is broken, can I fix it myself? How complicated is it? My repair manual says that this is a part that is best worked on by the dealer. Is this true? Where can I find any diagrams (exploded views, rebuild directions etc.)?

  • Would this account for a severe shuddering in the truck when braking?


  • Can anyone point to information specific to this beast? I have been unable to find any pricing information online. For that matter, none of the parts sites, that I have been to, seem to even be aware that this is part of the brake system.



Essentially, can anyone recommend a next step, game plan, alternatives etc...


I have some info about the LSPV-BV on my web page:

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Does the truck have a lift? If so, was the LSPV sensing arm raised to match the lift? I find that having the sensing arm near the top of its travel gives decent rear braking. All the way up is usually too much (rears lockup first).

-- Roger

No...bought it new...and nothing done to it. I thought about playing with the sensing arm, but it occurred to me that it would probably be more appropriate to adjust the actual LSPV instead of the arm (What happens when I really put a load on it). But I still have to figure out if "faking" it out with the sensing arm even fixes the problem. For all I know the valve is just shot. But, not knowing anything about how it works...thanks for the response...

Keep in mind that I'm not talking about insufficent rear braking...I'm talking about NO rear braking.

You adjust the LSPV with the sensing arm. Moving it higher makes it "think" there is more weight in the bed and thus it puts more braking pressure to the rear drums. You should make sure the drums are adjusted out properly. If the self-adjusting star-wheel is stuck, they won't self-adjust each time the parking brake is applied and then you won't have good rear brakes.

-- Roger

I'll try that then...Since the sensing arm has a finite range of motion, and there appear to be some adjustment screws on on the LPSV so I assumed that is where it would be adjusted.

As to the adjustment of the drums, I don't think that's an issue...yet. I'm not getting any fluid past the LPSV.

Thanks again...

The LSPV setup is very tricky, the manual doesn't recommend playing with it. Mine is 20 years old and never failed but maybe yours did ? No rear brakes ? check the naster cyclinder, the rear piston seals could be gone and leaking badly, so you get no rear pressure. I would doubt it's the LSPV.. If you have done the brakes recently then you need to adjust the star-wheel in the drums to take up most of the slack in the mechanism, then let the star-wheel do the self adjusting, it does this when you put on the brakes while moving in reverse, and when you pull on the parking brake. If you have 'brakes' when you pull on the parking brake then the problem is hydraulic pressure , not the rear mechanisms. Go to the master cylinder and overhaul that first , it's cheaper, easier and likely the problem. Leave the LSPV alone until there is no other possibility..

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