'63 bug - stock tire question

Hi folks,

I know this has been discussed at length before, but I just want to be sure before I put the tires on my '63, with the original wheels.

Is it best to go with:

1) Radials with tubes, 2) Radials without tubes, 3) Bias-belted without tubes.

What are the drawbacks of using tubes with radials? What are the drawbacks (or positives) of using bias-belted tires? The 61-65 Bentley basically discourages the use of radials entirely...

'63 wheels are suitable for tubeless bias tires, or radials with tubes, but I have seen many people use radials w/out tubes on their early '60s cars. The 1961-65 Bentley Manual even says to use tubes with radials, but I was wondering how many were out there like this? Thanks,

Dane '69 Bug '63 Bug

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Dane Tyler
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I have 165x15 radials on my '66 and I hate them. They look way to fat, I just love the original narrow look of the original crossplies. I keep promising that I will switch back to crossplies as soon as I wear out these radials, but they are too damn hard wearing!! he he

Can't remember if they had tubes in them, but I don't think they did.

If you want radial tyres, then try and get 155x15 instead. If you don't drive like a maniac, then you can't beat crossplies on a stock car - they're not as nasty and dangerous as people make them out to be.

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Howard Rose

I have radials without tubes on my '61 and they work just fine.

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Red Bug

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John Crichton

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Ben Boyle

OEM bias size was 5.60 x 15, although 6.00 x 15 is common replacement.

For radials, 155R15 was the equivalent size and recommended replacement, although 165R15 is used predominantly today.

I'm leaning towards getting the bias tires for my car ('63), but something tells me that may not be totally pleased with them. There's a reason that most every new car for the past 30 years has had radial tires...

Oh well, we shall see.

Dane Tyler '69 Bug '63 sunroof Bug

John Cricht> I think I used to know what the tire size that originally shipped on a

radials,

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Dane Tyler

OEM bias size was 5.60 x 15, although 6.00 x 15 is common replacement.

For radials, 155R15 was the equivalent size and recommended replacement, although 165R15 is used predominantly today.

I'm leaning towards getting the bias tires for my car ('63), but something tells me that may not be totally pleased with them. There's a reason that most every new car for the past 30 years has had radial tires...

Oh well, we shall see.

Dane Tyler '69 Bug '63 sunroof Bug

John Cricht> I think I used to know what the tire size that originally shipped on a

radials,

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Dane Tyler

That size sounds familiar! I have an old Firestone bias ply 5.60 x 15 as the spare as anything bigger wouldn't fit in the OEM location.

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Red Bug

5.60x15 crossply. Euro-spec cars had Michelin from 1965, but I believe US-spec cars had different ones?

Unfortunately Michelin no longer make a 5.60x15 crossply tyre, but Camacs look almost identical.

-- Howard Rose

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Howard Rose

Modern cars are also more reliable, comfortable, faster, better MPG, have working heaters... but I don't want one ;-)

-- Howard Rose

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Howard Rose

pretty sure, but not sure when/how, that Continental tire was the chosen tire supplier for US spec vw's....

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Chris Perdue

That's the one! Just forgot the name. Thanks~

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Howard Rose

I always used bias tubeless tires on my VW's (had 5 of 'em), and I read somewhere along the way that the newer steel belted tires are a bit too hard on the suspension system, as the bias tires absorb more road shock than radials. I dunno if this is true or not, but it sounds reasonable to me. When I get my next VW, I'll look for bias ply tires first, but if I can't find any, well, I'll be ready to spring for extra suspension parts too . . . -Tock

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Tock

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is a tire company that makes stuff for antique and classic cars. Click in the year and VW and you'll get your answer . . . they look nice (big 3" sidewalls) but they're pricy. But ya, they can tell ya what size you need. =Tock

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Tock

Your original wheels lack the safety hump in the rim which will keep radial tires from pulling sideways and deflating suddenly under hard cornering. A tube would at least slow down the deflation, even though it might well pop if you did this.

To use radial tires, it is recommended that you either have the safety hump or use an inner tube. For some reason, bias ply tires don't have this limitation. I don't know why.

Tubeless bias ply tires on these rims would be fine, but radials will handle better, probably last longer, and get better gas mileage.

The correct size for your '63 is either 5.60-15 or 155R15.

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Jim Adney

So would say a brand new '65 Bug on the dealer's lot have whitewall or blackwall tires?

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John Crichton

I've seen old pictures of both...I think they were an option.

Another question would be, when were the fat whitewalls replaced with the thinner white walls? I would guess '66 or so...

Dane

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Dane Tyler

.................I'd say that they were starting to disappear about 5 or more years earlier than '66.

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Tim Rogers

In the UK, I don't think whitewalls were even an option!

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