nail in my tire

I know how important correct tire pressure can be for offroad situations. Despite my best precautions my rotten luck held out and I ended up with a four inch nail in my tire. The nail is lodged all the way to the head which has molded to the tire from driving. It is lodged near the sidewall-tread seam and somehow I'm not loosing any air yet. I plan to add some green slime to my tire, just wondering if any of the heavy duty offroaders here think I should just go slime all my tires now and what sort of performance I can expect out of the green stuff? What sort of cons are involved in a full set of slimes?

This next question may seem idiotic but the answer is not readily apparent to me. After I slime the tire and run it for a mile should I forget about the nail or pull it out and patch the sucker?

metalstorm '91 XJ 4.0 D30/D35 ORS Skids & Foggers Milky Oil and a 4'' nail

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metalstorm
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Don't add anything to your tire. Many tire shops will refuse to work on a tire that has some kind of 'fixaflat' stuff in it. Just go to your local shop and have them PLUG it. Maybe though, by your description of location they may not plug it and you may have to get a new tire. Or you can try to plug it yourself. It's not hard, just by a $3 plug kit and follow the instructions. Nick

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Nick N

My vote would be don't us any additives to the tires. Pull the nail and seal with a plug.

Brian

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Bulletsnbrains

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L.W.(ßill)

Don't use any sort of slime in the tire. It is hazardous to the guy who ends up repairing the tire, will piss him off, and makes any repair job less likely to last by contaminating the surface. When I ran a tire shop we would reluctantly repair tires which had the goop du jour applied by customers, but we would do it with the clear understanding that the repair would carry no warranty.

Before you drive that any further, remove the tire with the nail and instal your spare. For all you know the point of that nail might be working its way into the sidewall of your tire from the inside out, which creates unrepairable damage which will cause the tire to be scrapped. Also, you will be running the risk of run low/flat damage which will also ruin the tire FAST, maybe faster than you can detect that the pressure has gone down.

A reputable tire shop will remove the tire from the rim, inspect the inside of the tire, fill the hole with rubber stem material, and the place a reinforced radial patch on the inside of the liner. This is an industry standard repair. Do not take it to a shop which uses plug repairs applied from the outside of the tire, those things are a temporary/trail fix AT BEST and will only cause problems down the road.

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Del Rawlins

That is correct.

Bad idea. A plug is a temporary repair intended to get you going when there is no practical alternative. Plugging a tire from the outside does not allow a thorough inspection for hidden damage and the process of installing a plug will often damage the tire further. On many occasions, I dismounted tires only to find that when the tire was previously plugged the orangutan who did it managed to damage the steel belts severely. In many instances, what would have been easily repairable punctures became cause for scrapping tires or not being able to warranty repairs due to the installation of plugs.

Furthermore, a seemingly "good" plug repair might start leaking a year or two down the road for no apparent reason. It eventually became the posted policy of our shop to remove ALL plug repairs from tires we worked on, whether they were leaking or not, and replace them with industry standard repairs consisting of a radial patch over rubber filler material in the hole. Occasionally somebody would complain about this but I believe that it prevented more customer complaints than it caused, since down the road when a tire went flat the customer is only going to remember the last person to work on that tire.

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Del Rawlins

You get partial credit for advising against the use of #$%@^&* sealing goop, or "elephant snot" as my dad referred to it. Plugs in general are a bad idea and are best used for getting back to civilization when you blow a tire and your spare is already flat. A quality repair involves dismounting the tire from the rim, inspecting the interior, and applying a patch to the inside.

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Del Rawlins

Over here, nobody will patch a tyre (from the inside or otherwise) if it is on the sidewall.

Dave Milne, Scotland '91 Grand Wagoneer, '99 TJ

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Dave Milne

I agree 100%.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

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Mike Romain

I just had one of the OEM tires repaired on my Superduty, they charged me $12 but will credit it back on the next purchase...

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Matt Macchiarolo

Dave Milne did pass the time by typing:

Same here. Only repairs they will do is on the tread. Sidewalls flex too much and patches won't hold.

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DougW

what about patching the inside and using a........................tube! lol Do they still do that? Or buy a new tire or set of tires later, dave

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dave AKA vwdoc1

dave AKA vwdoc1 did pass the time by typing:

They still do that but only for farm equipment.

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DougW

"Dave Milne" >

I had the same problem with a nail right at the edge of the tire. I plugged it and made it my permanant spare until I needed new tires all around then I had to let the tire guys toss the nailed spare and put one of old 4 up as a spare. Next time you get tires, get the road hazard insurance. Discount Tires are pretty reasonable. but ymmv

'99TJ

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Elflan

A lot of people think that is a good idea but they are wrong; it is a throwback to the old bias ply days when the sidewalls didn't flex as much as they do in a modern radial tire. If the damage is so bad or located far enough down the sidewall that a patch wouldn't hold, it will chafe right through a tube as well. Key thing to remember is that a tube has no strength on its own without the tire, so if the tire is structurally compromised a tube won't do anything for it. Also, a puncture while a puncture through a tubeless tire will often result in a slow leak and allow time to change the tire out someplace other than the side of the road, if the tire has a tube in it that sucker is going flat NOW.

Another thing is, contrary to popular belief, there are patches available that will allow repair of punctures that extend down the sidewall to some extent.

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Del Rawlins

Ok, Joke of the day. How many ramjw's does it take to answer one simple question?

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Nick N

Three... one to actually answer the question, two to ignore the question while denying that it's a real Jeep being asked about.

Jerry

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Jerry Bransford

I fourth jerry's response. Nick

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Nick N

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twaldron

They also do make radial tire tubes that can be used if the hole is patched inside with a radial tire patch.

Mike

86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
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