bad times for Jan and Kidd

Hi guys.

I am disappointed and endlessly saddened to report that my marriage seems to have come to an end. Kidd and I have gone through some tough times economically and other external influences like the athmosphere at my work has caused both of us to close up and get depressed. Somewhere along the way we forgot to be there for one another, or weren't able to communicate. She has made the mental decision to break up a long time ago, but for me this is new.

Needless to say, I am crushed. I love my wife to no end, and she loves me too but more as a friend than a husband. I understand. I thought we had something so special between us that nothing could break it, but I can't ask any more of her, she has been miserable too for a long time, and her faith of things being able to get better has died. (Mine has not)

We are finally able to push aside all animosity and negativity and communicate again, but it's too late to save our marriage. We will save our special friendship however, and we will still be a key part in each others' lives, also for the two kids we have together. Poor little things.

I decided to write about this here in Ramva, because our love story started here and we have long time friends here.

I gotta tell you, I feel like shit. I have never felt this bad inside.

Keep us both in your prayers and send us all the luck you can, so we can get through this and make the best of what we have left.

Rebound girlfriend applications will likely be rejected but who knows. Send a photo. ;)

Jan

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Jan Andersson
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Anyone else out there having a hard time in their relationship, hear my words. Just waiting it out and hoping things to get better on their own and letting time heal things, is not the way. You risk losing it all. Time to act, one of you has to swallow their pride and make an honest approach and talk. Dammit.

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Jan Andersson

Was this supposed to be sent out on April 1st?

If it is true then I will say a little prayer for you!

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dave AKA vwdoc1

Sorry to hear it Jan.

Randy

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Randy

No April fools :( The only fool here is me for not realizing what was going on before. I had plenty of opportunity.

One of the biggest love stories I know... and it had to come to this. .

I'm glad I still have her as my best friend when going through this crap. Weird how that can still work.

dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:

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Jan Andersson

Maybe a Christian marriage counselor or any marriage counselor might help. Try that before giving up. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger!

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Jim Ed

Maybe a Christian marriage counselor or any marriage counselor might help. Try that before giving up.

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Jim Ed

I=92ve been with my wife for 32 years. We=92ve been through a lot and on the verge of breaking up a few times. What I think has brought us through the tough times was very similar to a scene in The Outlaw Josey Wales where Eastwood says to =93pilgrims=94 right before the Indian attack. Basically, when you think it=92s over, you have to have determination. In your case, I would say, even if she walks, live your life like you promised her when you proposed and on your wedding day. Be faithful, be a good dad and husband and work for the best for her even if it means self-sacrifice. Self-sacrifice means to make positive changes in the way you live your life and relate to her. Be there when she needs you. Make decisions like the lives of your family depend on them. I actually think you ought to write down your feelings, promises and decisions and give them to her. Maybe your writing skills are better than your verbal skills. I say that because I see you write on two VW sites. You are a top class person even when others go to the gutter. In real life, the good guy doesn=92t have to finish last.

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Robert

Then I'll be the strongest man alive after this :)

No room for christian counselor or other type. I asked if she'd talk with a pastor friend of mine, but no. I'm not very religious although I do have my own religious faith of sorts, and she's into paganism. Nothing creepy, just respect for nature and "powers of the universe"

-stuff, much of which I can relate to and agree with.

It may be too early to say but looks like it's really over, and we will all be also moving to Virginia/DC area and start over there as separated and divorced, but still in daily contact for the kids. Meant to move up north anyways long ago anyway.

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Jan Andersson

Hey Jan:

Sorry to hear this news. Hopefully you two can work things out. I remember back around 1999 when you and Kidd met and fell in love on Ramva. If my memory serves me like it should, you were visiting Florida for the Year 2000 New Year. Remember that one when everyone thought the computers would go crazy at midnight. If there is anything I can do or you need to talk to someone, drop me an e mail and let me know.

Bill B.

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Bill Berckman

You have my sympathy Jan. Sorry to say I have seen this a long time coming from her posts on F.B.

My best wishes.

J=F8rn

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P.J.Berg

I agree with Robert! Write more letters from your heart! JMHO One out of many daves

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The Busman

Yea I have seen it too, but things were so sour between us I was not able to approach her. I don't blame her, but you know any attempt to get close or talk resulted in my head being in danger of being bitten off.

Then again, I should have tried harder, and a long, long time ago. Time does not heal these things on its own. Waiting it out won't work. You gotta do something and swallow your pride. Hindsight 20-20...

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Jan

From personal experience it took me 10 years to become any kind of friends with my ex. I'd say that with the friendly break up, the door is probably open on maybe... Review the stupid things you've done (don't think about what she's done that's for her to figure out) then sometime when you're having friendly conversation bring them up and tell her you were sorry for these things. Don't push it and don't try too soon. At the very worst it will make you better friends. As guys we tend gloss over our mistakes and not talk about them and women tend to take this as arrogance. It's OK to say you were wrong and apologize.

T>

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TonyW

Congrats on the new job. I remember how great that feels...

I don't know if any one here remembers my spotty employment record from the old days but it seems that when I was working in the computer industry, I was out of work every few years and some times the unemployed stretches were so long that I though I was going to loose everything. The last time I was out of work I started my own company and now it's all up to me. I may not make as much money, but the freedom is wonderful...

T>

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TonyW

ahhhh I shall call you.........MASTER Jan! lol

Congrats on that new JOB! ;-)

Will you still be working on Porsches? What will happen to that project car you were restoring?

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dave AKA vwdoc1

Thanks Tony, we've done that. She is having hard times now and now it's my turn to push aside my pain and be there for her, and I am. Even if it means doing something I don't want and that would help her get away from me. :(

T> From personal experience it took me 10 years to become any kind of

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Jan Andersson

No more Porsches.

I'll be working at the local Pep Boys :D :D :D

True!! As a master tech, getting paid master tech rate, doing master tech work, like I should.

And hopefully being treated as a human being with some value. That would be a fresh change.

dave AKA vwdoc1 wrote:

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Jan Andersson

Guys,

I thank you for your support through all of this. We have been able to talk a lot more and clear things up. It really is over, there is no chance of going back. What the future brings somewhere down the line, nobody knows. We were able to save an amazing friendship and respect for one another, and we can pretty much agree on everything. She is helping me a lot, and her being emotionally so far ahead of me in the process, helps the situation. I'm a little lost and freaking out sometimes, but she's there to tell me what's what. Isn't that something, who has heard of a divorce like that?!?!

But no, it does not leave room for "maybe", if you were thinking that.

In the middle of all this, I can consider myself extremely lucky that it's her and not anyone else. I have watched and heard plenty of divorces turn ugly.

Jan

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Jan

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