Hey pick one..

Why are you trying to pick me apart? Did I do something to piss you off? What's the problem? I'd be glad to answer any of your questions about my experience but
maybe we should do it off the newsgroup. It's OT and IMO a waste of bandwidth. If you feel you need to make a point to the group, you could always cut and paste.
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The truth is out there...........

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pick one wrote:

Yep, and all you gotta do is ask.
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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 14:17:55 -0500, Tom Adkins

dont worry tom
pick one has no certification
he is a wanna bee lmfao no seal no work in canada
lmfao
hurc ast
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Got plenty.
Want to explain why you index a bolt the shop manual says to throw away?

Canada is cold, I like it warm so I live in warm climates. I will guarantee you can not work in my field.

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On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 15:44:47 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

lmfao to kill time fuckhead flat rate is a rippoff for the customer it leads to shoddy workmanship
i get paid salery lmfao

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BNWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
FAIL You just ROASTED this guys rear axle
you INDEX nut and return it to INDEXED SPOT
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you do WORSE work than PEPBOYS
hurc ast
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 18:58:19 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

so now post the shop manual where it sez replace the bolt ?
hurc ast
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No problem: It's step 5
SECTION 205-02: Rear Drive Axle/Differential - Ford 8.8-Inch Ring Gear 1999 Explorer/Mountaineer Workshop Manual IN-VEHICLE REPAIR Procedure revision date: 07/27/1998
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Drive Pinion Flange
Special Tool(s) 2-Jaw Puller 205-D072 (D97L-4221-A) or Equivalent Companion Flange Holding Tool 205-126 (T78P-4851-A) Companion Flange Replacer 205-002 (TOOL-4858-E) or Equivalent
Removal
1.. CAUTION: Do not allow the calipers to hang from the brake hoses.
NOTE: Remove the rear wheels and the rear disc brake calipers (2552) to prevent brake drag during the drive pinion bearing preload adjustment.
Remove the rear disc brake calipers. For additional information, refer to Section 206-04. 2.. Index-mark the driveshaft flange and pinion flange (4851) to maintain initial balance during installation.
3.. Remove the four bolts and disconnect the driveshaft. a.. Position the driveshaft aside.
4.. Install a Nm (inch-pound) torque wrench on the pinion nut, and record the torque necessary to maintain rotation of the pinion through several revolutions.
5.. CAUTION: After removing the pinion nut, discard it. Use a new nut for installation.
Use the special tool to hold the pinion flange while removing the pinion nut.
6.. Index-mark the pinion flange and the drive pinion stem to maintain initial balance during installation.
7.. Using the special tool, remove the pinion flange.
Installation
1.. Lubricate the pinion flange splines. a.. For vehicles with 4.0L SOHC and 4.0L EI with Traction-Lok differentials and 5.0L, use Motorcraft Synthetic 75W140 Rear Axle Lubricant F1TZ-19580-B or equivalent meeting Ford specification WSL-M2C192-A. a.. For vehicles with 4.0L SOHC and 4.0L EI with conventional differentials, use Thermally Stable Rear Axle Lubricant XY-80W90-QL or equivalent meeting Ford specification WSP-M2C197-A. 2.. NOTE: Disregard the scribe marks if installing a new pinion flange.
Align the pinion flange with the drive pinion shaft.
3.. Using the special tools, install the pinion flange.
4.. CAUTION: Do not under any circumstance loosen the pinion nut to reduce preload. If it is necessary to reduce preload, install a new collapsible spacer (4662) and pinion nut.
CAUTION: Remove the special tool when taking preload readings with the Nm (inch-pound) torque wrench.
Use the special tool to hold the pinion flange while tightening the pinion nut. a.. Rotate the pinion occasionally to make sure the pinion bearings (4630) (4621) seat correctly. Take frequent pinion bearing torque preload readings by rotating the pinion with a Nm (inch-pound) torque wrench. a.. If the preload recorded prior to disassembly is lower than the specification for used bearings, then tighten the pinion nut to specification. If the preload recorded prior to disassembly is higher than the specification for used bearings, then tighten the pinion nut to the original reading as recorded. a.. Refer to the torque specification for used pinion bearings in the Specifications portion of this section.
5.. CAUTION: Be sure to align the index-marks.
Connect the driveshaft. For additional information, refer to Section 205-01.
6.. Install the rear disc brake calipers. For additional information, refer to Section 206-04. 7.. Install the rear wheel and tire assemblies. For additional information, refer to Section 204-04. 8.. Refer to Differential Housing Cover in this section for the specified axle lubricant type and fill capacity.
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 19:41:22 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

tell me where i said i was working on a exploder lmfao u go girl i like mine supersized
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Who cares? The fact is you do not follow proper procedures there all the same for the 8.8, 9.75 and 10.25. The only diff's that are different is the Dana 80 and Dana S135. Your a hack. I'm surprised your "red seal" has not been revoked yet. How many diff's have you destroyed?
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Tom Adkins wrote:

>"1980 to 2003 is 23 years, yet you found time to go to a tech school (Ohio Diesel Technical Institute ) that apparently does not exist, at least from what I could find via multiple types of searches. You at best worked as a trainee while in both high school and then while attending some kind of technical school." The name was changed some years back and is now Ohio Technical College www.ohiotechnicalcollege.com. During my 14 months there I only worked part time. I took my first ASE cert. tests in 1978 and became a Ford Master Tech. in 1999 about 3 months before leaving the dealership.
"Yet you were laid off from your full time IT job in 2003 that you started in 2001. "In 2003 I was laid off from my IT job and am as yet unemployed" "Worked there full time from April 2001 til August 2003.""
Unemployed as in I didn't work for someone else. I have no desire to actually own my own business although I do pay taxes on the work I do and have the necessary documentation, thus Data Techs and Automotive Specialty Systems. Since 2003 I have done work in both the Automotive and IT field. This has been mostly contract work, without benefits, etc. I prefer to have a steady job and even though I consider myself unemployed, I was sure not idle. Prior to 2001 I also did contract work in IT along with my full time job at the dealership. I was A+ and NET+ certified before I entered school in 1999. You made mention of my "business venture" post of some time ago. At the time I was considering actually renting a shop and and putting all of my effort into Automotive Specialty Systems. I've since decided against it. Owning a business is more hassle than I want to deal with.
"So you have two years at Tops, but have been in the IT business for 5 years? You left automotive in 2001, laid off in 2003. You clearly stated in this NG that you have 25 years automotive. Why the several year difference?"
If you found a post where I said 25 you have my apology. I stick with 23 although technically I could say 27, as I started working on cars for pay in 1978 while taking automotive classes at the local vocational school and still have my hands in the business today. I started "playing" with computers as a hobby in about 1994 and started building PCs and small office networks "for pay" in about 1997. I usually consider that the beginning of my IT career. If I wanted to "pad" my experience I could say I have 11 years in IT and not actuall be lying.
"You have at the most 18 maybe 19 years automotive as a trained technician. If your going to give a resume out to public you ought to be accurate. Especially when you list your self as an "expert" on some obscure web site."
Actually the folks at 3clix wrote that off of my resume, not me. I was involved with them for about a month until I backed away. I smelled a scam there somewhere. I've tried to get them to remove my info but they haven't yet.
I think I see the problem. You seem to not consider training and time spent in other than a full time job on the payroll of a company as experience. You're allowed to feel that way I guess, I don't. For the past 2-3 months I've been setting up IBM Point of sale systems for a drug store chain. I do everything except pulling the cable.(Physically installing the equipment;configuring the servers, switches, routers, and registers, etc.) I'm a subcontractor operating as Data Techs and not actually an employee. Does this count as job experience in your book? How about the collector cars that I rewire or the custom AC installations? Do I really need to go on? How about this one. I am qualified, per FRA regulations, as an Engineer to operate a locomotive in passenger service. I do this on weekends for a non profit tourist railroad. Would this count as experience in your book? I'm not on a payroll, I don't get paid. Here's a clue, I was offered a position with CSX. No, it wasn't as an Engineer, you have to work up to that. I wouldn't have gotten the offer if they didn't feel I was qualified based on my experience.
            Regards, Tom
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So you lied on you ASE? The requirements are two years verifiable experience. Are you saying you worked professionally as a mechanic in your freshman and sophomore years of high school?
"Who may take ASE Certification Tests? You may take the regular tests (except X1, L1, and L2) as long as you are registered by the deadline and have paid the proper fees. You will become ASE-Certified if you pass one or more tests and have at least two years of hands-on work experience."

Not only did I find it put in in a post asking you about it.

If they took it off your resume, you gave the information then. It was based on your resume.

The vast amount of employers feel the same as I. Training is experience, not in the same class as doing the work unsupervised after training and always be listed as such.

That would be like saying I build houses via Habitat for Humanity, which I do, but that does not make me a contractor. But the experience goes a long way if I were too decide to apply for a contractors license.

You made it appear that you had X years as a professional fully trained, which is after training. My point is you are taking credit where it is not due. You have 18-19 years with some part time while in training and you do side jobs is what it boils down to.

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:22:36 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

in canada working part time under supervision of a licenced teck is allowed the time will be applied and recognized lmfao

ase means sweet FUCKALL you are still unskilled worldwide
bwhahahahaha
hurc ast

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pick one wrote:

I don't know if the requirements have changed since then. I took the first tests while I was in high school. Maybe someone else remembers the requirements back them, I don't. It's been 20+ years since I even had to think about it.

Read the above quote again. I will maintain 23 years to date. If I said 25 it was a mistake. Anyone who read that post and questioned 25 years could have done what you did and verified it. The "25" was a mistake on my part. You're grasping at straws.

Especially

They took the facts off of my resume and embellished the heck out of it. That's one of the reasons I backed away. THEY labelled me an expert, as they did with anyone involved with them.

When does one cease being a trainee and become qualified? I've worked unsupervised on every job I've ever had; before, during and after "training". I have had ongoing training throughout my adult life. You're grasping again.

How do you figure. I have to meet the same qualifications and am just as responsible for safety and everything else as a "professional" Engineer. More so because I haul people, not freight. You can't just jump into a 200,000lb E-8 and go for a ride. Are you saying that because I'm a voulenteer that I'm not fully qualified? You've got a lot to learn, pal.

No, I state, as always, that I have 23(1978 to 2005 would actually be 27) years of automotive experience. No more, no less. When is one considered "fully trained"? When do "side jobs" become self employment? And, since when is contract work a "side job"?
You know, I wonder what you do for a living? I could probably find out but, it really doesn't matter. This conversation is getting old. I'm explaining my qualifications to some usenet denizen who hides behind a pseudonym. I've aired my qualifications thoroughly and have nothing to hide. Anyone on this group can judge for his or her self. So, unless you are offering me a job, you can now go fuck yourself.
Oh, here. You win, I lose. I'm a fraud. Now, do you feel better? Gooood.
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X-Trace: attbi_s52 1101186547 24.131.224.203 (Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:09:07 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:09:07 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 05:09:07 GMT
I am looking for an opinion on a business venture, I was a Ford tech for many years and have about 25 years total as an automotive tech. I always liked doing electrical and AC work. About 5years ago I retrained in IT. In 2003 I was laid off from my IT job and am as yet unemployed. I have filled the gaps by doing electrical and AC work on collector cars, including complete rewires and some custom work on streetrods, along with Vintage Air installations. I guess what I'm asking is, Is there a market for electrical and A\C work on classic\collector cars. I know there is always someone in this area that wants work done, but they want it for $20 per job. When I quote $25/HR they tend to choke. A few of the "money men" in this area will go for it. I rehabbed a complete AC system in a 69 Coronet RT for $500 and parts ($365 customer supplied). The guy felt he was ripped off because all I had to do was replace some parts and charge the system. I have found that electrical work is better, but I can only squeeze out about $18\hr for uncobbling a harness on "Say" a 71 Roadrunner". I know the average car owner cant' do this work, and I don't want to rape him. Any Ideas? Tom Adkins (Automotive Specialty Systems) South Amherst, Ohio 44001
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I dont think so.

Ok, if you say so.......

Generally after formal education, you know the basic stuff? Wheel bearing end play; basic hydraulics; the stuff you need to know that you don't while in high school. Yes there is always ongoing training every body knows that, so don't go down that road. If you want me to believe that you went on your merry way as a high school kid working on someone's car unsupervised from day one, I have a great offer for you on land in the everglades.

code and such as well, the point is solid. It's volunteer work as should be said as such.

you are still in high school with a transmission overhaul? I don't think so, the general public regards those in the automotive repair industry as crooks to start with.

I doubt you could, but if your asking I'll be glad to tell you.

I never called you a fraud, I did point out some glaring..................harsh word so lets just say what youve posted in your current vs. past posts has some problems.

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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:22:36 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

I don't know about him, but I had half of my apprenticeship finished before I graduated from highschool, 3 days after my 17th birthday. I finished my apprenticeship and got my Canadian class A interprovincial MVR licence (Ontario) before my 19th birthday. Before my 21st birthday I was teaching auto mechanics at the secondary school level, and at the trade level before my 22nd.
After teaching 2 1/2 years, I returned to the trade for another 21 years, 10 as service manager, before "retiring" from the trade and taking up a new career.While working as service manager I turned down a teaching position (head tech) at the local community college / trade school. (call me crazy)
At age 40 I went back to school to learn computer technology -where I've been working ever since.

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was my point.
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On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 20:38:01 -0500, "pick one" <try again!> wrote:

Certified Engineer. No experience required.
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ASE requires two years verifiable experience. Yes I know about Microsoft's certifications, hell you don't even need to go to school for them. That just makes them easier.
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