Looking for a mid-size domestic car recommendation

Make that a Landau.

I already have a seat that makes me smile. The GT will outrun anything near its price range and even some that cost twice as much. A few of my friends with even faster cars never beat me in a timed race because I have more balls on the track then they. As to insurance I pay about $1,000 annually for $1,000,000 coverage, with a $1,000 deductible on the collision coverage and zero on comprehensive on my 2003 GT convertible. My 2005 Lincoln LS V8 runs about $200 less on the same policy. When I compare my drive home price of 28K, to the Toyota Solara or Chrysler V6 convertibles, my insurance and even some of my gas, is basically free for the two years I keep my cars.. The other two would have cost me at least 5K to

6K more to drive home Insurance on the Solara and Chrysler would cost me more as well because they are FWD not RWD ;)

mike hunt

BOB URZ wrote:

C. E. I may be old but I'm not yet senile. I believe that if I did buy the GT 40 at the $154K that he offered, it will most likely be worth more than that when I sell it in two years. ;)

Seriously I'm surprised at the low dealer markup that Ford is giving dealers on the GT 40, the dealer has twice the spread on a Town Car. When I was in retail the dealerships made more money on a 75K MB or BMW than a Ford dealer will make on the GT 40 at MSRP, curious

mike hunt

"C. E. White" wrote:

No, the funds are there for those that seek it. Site a source that has documented that large numbers of people are being turned down their request for aid for lack of funds. Usually they're turned down because they won't meet the conditions for the aid (things like submit job applications).

If her health insurance didn't pay to the terms and conditions of the policy, then go to court. However, IF she didn't have insurance then she obviously _chose_ not to have health insurance before she got sick. That was a bad choice...a gamble taken and lost. It is not the government's fault for the choices we make. You certainly don't expect a company to say, "sure we'll insure you now for $300-$400 a month now that we have to pony-up $500,000.00...it ain't gonna happen. It's like asking a homeowners insurance company to give you a policy after your house burns down...it ain't gonna happen! Folks, get health insurance NOW before you get sick! The odds are very high you will need it!

Now that you mention it, it does have a musty odor inside. I have to check the seal. Thanks for the tip.

If you are laid off you can only keep the old insurance for a limited length of time under the law a few years ago. Not sure what the law is now. Also the rates can go sky high when you are laid off and take the plan private. Also the old company can lay off a bunch of people, discontinue the old health plan so the laid off people are not eligible to continue in the old plan. Then they start a new plan for the current employees. Or in some cases the companies go out of business leaving people without health insurance. I guess you live a sheltered life.

In the U.S., you would be taling about continuation under the COBRA Act.

True.

I believe they must make it available to continue you under the plan you were under at the time of layoff. BTW - If you get laid off and your previous employer tries to play games with your eligibility for COBRA or what's available under COBRA, call the Department of Labor - they absolutely **LOVE** to go after companies that try to skirt the law in this area. I called the DoL about something that a previous employer was telling me that didn't jive with what the COBRA Act itself seemed to say on the subject, and when I explained the question to the DoL, I had to hold the DoL off from going after them - they begged me to turn them loose on them. I was able to use that fact as leverage to get the previous employer to do what the Act required, and they changed their tune **VERY** quickly (sometimes I wish I had turned the DoL loose on them - they deserved it for several reasons - for one thing, they - a French-owned company - laid off a bunch of Americans in their U.S.-based plant in order to bring French employees over to fill the same spots - a big no-no according to U.S. federal labor laws. There were other sleeze-ball things they did too that I won't go into).

Always a risk, but you could also walk out your door and get run over by a truck too. 8^)

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

Meant to type "...you would be talking about...

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

Communism never truly existed, Socialism is still some of the most successful nations (i.e. Sweeden), and capitalism won't leave as long as there are the super-rich. Just out of curiousity, what is the future?

"C. E. White" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@mindspring.com...

I really only have one comment to make.... how is the Stock Market a big Casino that I "feed my money into so they can live like a Sultan"? I get mine too. GM pays a $.50/sh dividend each quarter. That is a pretty decent dividend, especially for an auto manufacturer. Their stock is on a decent rise from the fall of the market a few years ago. So I don't see how you are getting screwed on it here. Perhaps if you knew how to make Your Money Work For You, you wouldn't be so angry. This is a capitalistic society. Those who work for it are rewarded for it. Sure, Mr Wagoner may get paid a lot. Part of it may be greed, it may be he is worth it, it may be something else. But look at someone like Henry Ford, he worked tirelessly for years to get his auto company off the ground. He probably spent nights upon nights without sleep, working his ass off, and he was rewarded for it. He made millions, had one of the most powerful companies in the U.S., and there were people who complained about his ways. But I tell you what, if that man offered me a job, I would have taken it and never complained one bit about it. Some companies lie, cheat, steal, but it is our job to educate ourselves on what it is those companies do. Knowledge is the key to success in our world. If you don't like capitalism, I would suggest a country like Sweeden or Switzerland, perhaps even Cuba, North Korea, or Vietnam where everyone is equal (at least according to the rules of communism, but something tells me they are using that word a little loosely... I see dictatorship... but what do I know.) and gets equal pay based off their job description and gets equal food and gets equal housing and the same clothing. Then you won't have to worry about anyone making $14.7 million dollars a year, it will be like $100 a year. You won't have to worry about someone having 17 cows to your 1 or anything, at least in theory, but I am pretty sure in North Korea, they are lucky to have a cow (or ox). I do think some CEO's make too much money, and in a way I think some regulation should be in place, such as when American Airlines is cutting jobs, cutting pay, and filing bankruptcy but the CEO is giving himself a payraise and a bonus it seems a little backassward. Although by filing bankruptcy the courts will decide that stuff. But still. Kmart is another example, offering loans to top executive and pay increases and generous use of company equipment while closing stores and cutting employess instead of investing in the company which drove it into the ground. But I can't complain much cause such is the world of capitalism.

The homeless americans can get a J-O-B. I know its a rough situation here for some people. I know I am in one myself. But there are jobs. Truth is a lot of homeless people don't want to do anything. Thus if you don't want to work for it, you shouldn't get it. This isn't a vacation.

Its called COBRA insurance when you get laid off or quit a job. Its expensive yes, but its insurance. Its not too shabby. You almost always get something in the mail after terminating employment in anyway. I know I always have. Plus I get offered the extensions on my insurance that I had with the company I worked for. You can buy insurance, there is just a cost. There are even insurance companies that will insure you regardless but you will pay a premium. ( a major premium, especially women due to the maintenece care).

I've been laid off before and you're full of crappola! There are many health insurance options out there from many different providers that will write policies with different coverage options. Have you not looked for them?

Spoken like a true republican.

If you mean stating the facts, you're right. You can get different types of insurance from many sources. They may not be cheap, but they're out there. And there are plenty of safety nets out there for those in dire straits.

Bill Putney (to reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with "x")

Dunno what's it's like in the US but in the UK quite a few homeless are mentally ill and need looking after and not instructions from warm and comfortable people on high to get a job. They're on the streets because the government closed many mental institutions and tipped the inmates into "Care in the Community", a well-meaning move that assumed these people had relatives who would take of them.

How many homeless have you spoken to or read about?

DAS

Exactly true in the US too plus there are plenty of working homeless.

Let me give you an example of a safety net. There is low cost subsidized health insurance available in most states for children with no coverage. But it is limited and on a first come first serve basis. The demand is much higher than the supply, at least in NC.