Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

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I'm getting conflicting info on towing A 2004 ranger xlt 4wd manual
transmission truck more than 50 miles.
Does anyone have first hand facts on towing this ranger more than 50 miles
without harming it?


Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission



The most trusted company that equips vehicles for towing:
http://www.remcotowing.com/vehicles

Here is what they say you need to do:
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Application Notes
Four wheel drive, manual transmission, is towable by placing transfer case
in two wheel drive high and manual transmission in neutral.
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They sell parts to make most vehicles towable, so if they say it can be
towed without doing anything other than the above shift placements, you can
bet you can.  Phone them up on their 800# if you want a person to tell you
that it's correct.

Tom J



Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

Thanks Tom,
                    I'm not in the truck now. I was going to buy it when I
looked in the manual and it stated a 50 mile limit.
                   I remember seeing a wafer switch on the dash, but I can't
remember the selections. I thought it was maybe 2wd, and 4wd hi, and 4wd lo.
But I am not confident about that.
                 Thanks again and I'll go to that link you included.
                                        tim fm Ct


Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission



I do not know the Ranger, but when I was dragging my Jeep CJ5 across the
highways and byways of America, I set the t-case to N, and put the trans in
1 or R. I also locked my front hubs so the spinning Front Output Shaft drove
the gears that were below the oil line in the t-case up onto the gears that
were connected to the Rear Output Shaft that lived above the oil line.

I think the suggestion you gave will result in the tires turning the tcase,
which will then turn the transmission, which will cook the gears since the
output cluster is above the oil line. I would expect a suggestion of setting
the trans to 1 or R to hold it from turning due to friction or any other
reason, and set the t-case to N so that the rotation of the tires did not
turn the gears -- other than the output shaft gears which like to be covered
in oil if they can be.





Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

Jeff Strickland wrote:

You THINK?? & you don't have experience with that vehicle?? I didn't
make any suggestion!! I posted what Remco says and like I said, Remco
sells parts to make vehicles towable. I would still call Remco and
confirm what their website states, and said that in my post above!!

Tom J



Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission



In that case (2HI and setting the trans to N), then one can get around the
35mph limitation by disconnecting the rear drive shaft fromt he
differential.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to impune you personally. The suggested method of
towing is counterintuitive if you know what I know -- and I know alot, just
not the Ranger.




Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

Jeff Strickland wrote:

Why do you keep saying he needs to disconnect the drive shaft when Remco,
who sells parts to keep from doing that do not say it's needed?

I have never said I know, but I will truct what Remco says over what is said
on a newsgroup, because like the original poster said - you get all kinds of
conflicting solutions!!

Tom J



Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

On 6/9/2011 12:40 PM, Tom J wrote:

But not trust what FORD says. The folks who engineered and built the truck.

--
David Chamberlain

Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

David Chamberlain wrote:

The original post said he wanted advice about what Ford says. I gave
him the company that has done the most after market business of making
all kinds of vehicles able to be towed 4 down with no damage to the
vehicle!!

I don't tow a vehicle behind my motorhome, but if I did, I'd do like
thousands are already doing, get the proper equipment, if needed, from
Remco and tow away!!  I've caravaned all over North America with
people towing Ford pickups 4 down for thousands of miles at highway
speeds with do problems except backing up. ;-)
Tom J



Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

On 6/5/2011 10:54 AM, Tim fm CT wrote:

Your Owner's Manual contains information on towing the truck behind an
RV. If you have an automatic transmission, or shift on the fly 4WD, no
more than 50 miles at 35 MPH.

http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pubs/content/~WO4RAN/~MUS~LEN/41/04ranog3e.pdf

Page 132

--
David Chamberlain

Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission



The logic is that the engine is not turning, but the tires are. So, you want
settings that disconnect the tires from the engine.

Put the tcase in N, and the goal is achieved. There will be some spinning of
the t-case Input Shaft just because of the tcase Output Shaft rotation and
the tight tolerances they use to assemble the tcase. To prevent the tcase
input shaft from spinning, set the trans to P (if an auto) or 1 or R (if a
manual). The trans will hold the tcase input shaft stationary while
selecting N on the tcase will allow the tires to turn.

If you want to exceed the speed and/or distance limitations specified in the
manual, then you can disconnect the drive shaft from the differential and
suspend it/them from the vehicle frame with a suitable material. It is
typical that the Rear Drive Shaft be disconnected from the diff when the
tcase output shaft is above the oil line in the tcase.






Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

On 6/8/2011 5:36 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:

Per his description, the t-case doesn't have a Neutral. Ford electric
shift transfer cases don't. Also, given that there are no locking hubs,
the front drivetrain is always turning, I'd be hesitant to tow one any
distance without all 4 wheels off of the ground, or both drive shafts
removed.

--
David Chamberlain
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I tend to agree with you on the driveshafts removed...

I see Rangers being flat-towed, but I can't say that they are 2WD or 4WD.

The front drive shaft turning was not a problem in my Jeep (Dana 300 t-case)
because it was below the oil line, and this became a benefit to me because
the front drive shaft turns gears that splash oil that falls onto other
gears that are above the oil line and connected to the other drive shaft.

It sounds like a 4WD Ranger is a poor candidate to be flat-towed...








Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission

On 6/8/2011 8:10 PM, Jeff Strickland wrote:

Manual transfer case Rangers were built and they would be fine.

There is a possibility that the electric shift 4WD with a manual
transfer case would be fine, but Ford doesn't make their recommendations
for no reason.

Without actually seeing the internals of the transmission and transfer
case there wouldn't be any way to know for sure, and I'd hate to see
someone risk messing up a perfectly good truck.
--
David Chamberlain


Re: Towing (4 wheels down) 2004 Ranger 4wd manual transmission



Thank you for sharing your "high points" with us.  Together in
Spirit, we will "overcome" many obstacles.  My Bible claims that Faith can
move mountains, but around here, lots of work and persistence is also
necessary.

   I  Recall, an anecdote about the water fountain with the
"lightening shock" (due to bad ballasts in the overhead lighting system)
told in the summer of 2002.  I was without power
for hours due to a transforming storm near my apartment.  The national
news portrayed the Empire State Building as resembling a Roman Candle due to
almost constant light strikes for over an hour one .  Image
the computers in that huge place!  The magnetic force fields probably
required a lot of rebooting.


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