Civic stuck in park - what's the deal with this problem?

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On 2/3/2008 9:55 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:


The interlock means you can't shift in to gear without holding down the brake.
The car can't surge forward from a standing start with the brake applied. It's just that simple.
I don't believe there was a problem with non-driver initiated acceleration. But there apparently was some problem with unintended acceleration. At the time, we Audi owners speculated it had to do with pedal placement, particularly on manual transmission vehicles.
However the acceleration occurred, it was made impossible by the interlock. Irrespective of the cause of the acceleration, the interlock worked, because the driver had his foot on the brake.
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Dave Kelsen wrote:

eh??? on a stick??? now you're really losing all contact with reality.

you're not analyzing the facts. fact: the brake switch is activated before there is any serious braking starts to happen. unless there are two switches, one for the brake lights and one for the interlock that operates only when the brake is full on, there's no way an interlock can prevent the vehicle rolling. and interlocks work on the brake switch. this ignores, of course, the question of whether there is any throttle surge in the first place.
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"unintended accelleration"(UA) occurred when the driver started the car with their foot on or hovering over the GAS pedal instead of on/over the brake,and when the car lurched forward,they stomped on the GAS instead of the brake they -thought- they were stomping on,and the car accellerated instead of stopping. "left-foot" brakers are more susceptible to this UA problem.
Thus,even if their foot was not pressing enough to actvate the braking,the foot was still OVER/on the brake pedal if the car lurched,so they would stomp on the BRAKE instead of the gas.(right-foot brakers)
I've never heard of any manual shift cars in UA crashes.(because the car doesn't lurch when shifting into gear,the clutch has control.)
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:35:34 -0600, Dave Kelsen

I think the problem was pretty much confined to AT cars.

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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:55:49 -0800, jim beam

Because, as we both agreed three posts ago, the engine computer isn't the problem. The problem is people accidentally hitting the gas instead of the brake. The first defense against this is good ergonomic design to minimize the chance of this happening. The second defense is the interlock which is cheaper, more quickly implemented and more easily mandated by law, if necessary.
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 17:31:50 -0500, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"

Which is why the interlock was a good solution.
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Gordon McGrew wrote:

if the car has a problem, say with idle control, and starts accelerating, how does an interlock stop that happening???
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 07:46:42 -0800, jim beam

Is there a problem with the idle control? If so, the interlock won't help. But if the problem is and always was idiots [and others] not operating the car correctly, the interlock reduces the problem.
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Gordon McGrew wrote:

it would be more effective to put an i.q. interlock on the ignition.
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On Sat, 02 Feb 2008 11:47:52 -0800, jim beam

The only way for you to hit the windshield is to drive the car into something. Seat belts do damn-all to address this.

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Gordon McGrew wrote:

wow!!! potm!!!

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Those clever little Nip spin-meisters ! They've had everyone fooled for the last 25 years--- selling all those rice burners that fall apart two weeks after the warranty ends and no one but you sees through them!
On that transmission release key slot, that was a specially installed feature on your car only. Ya' see when the salesman entered your order, he ticked the box for "Buyer is a whiney nitwit, " So the guys in the back dropped in a defective tranny with release slot....
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On 2/1/08 8:59 PM, in article snipped-for-privacy@f10g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,

Be glad you have a Honda with the slot. On a Nissan, you have to remove the entire trim piece around the shifter and then guess at what to prod with a screwdriver to get it to move.
The problem is a stuck shift lock. The cure will either be a simple adjustment of the switch on the brake pedal that releases it or maybe replacement of a part.
Should be quick and easy repair. Has nothing to do with the transmission itself and the warranty should cover it --- unless its "Pepsi Syndrome". You didn't perchance spill a drink in there to gum it up?
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All this bull crap for a simple question. Check your brake switch as it is probably bad or intermittent.

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Woody wrote:

What else do you expect on the internet???
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