On 2/3/2008 9:55 AM jim beam spake these words of knowledge:
The interlock means you can't shift in to gear without holding down the
The car can't surge forward from a standing start with the brake
applied. It's just that simple.
I don't believe there was a problem with non-driver initiated
acceleration. But there apparently was some problem with unintended
acceleration. At the time, we Audi owners speculated it had to do with
pedal placement, particularly on manual transmission vehicles.
However the acceleration occurred, it was made impossible by the
interlock. Irrespective of the cause of the acceleration, the interlock
worked, because the driver had his foot on the brake.
"Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which
differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are
eh??? on a stick??? now you're really losing all contact with reality.
you're not analyzing the facts. fact: the brake switch is activated
before there is any serious braking starts to happen. unless there are
two switches, one for the brake lights and one for the interlock that
operates only when the brake is full on, there's no way an interlock can
prevent the vehicle rolling. and interlocks work on the brake switch.
this ignores, of course, the question of whether there is any throttle
surge in the first place.
"unintended accelleration"(UA) occurred when the driver started the car
with their foot on or hovering over the GAS pedal instead of on/over the
brake,and when the car lurched forward,they stomped on the GAS instead of
the brake they -thought- they were stomping on,and the car accellerated
instead of stopping. "left-foot" brakers are more susceptible to this UA
Thus,even if their foot was not pressing enough to actvate the braking,the
foot was still OVER/on the brake pedal if the car lurched,so they would
stomp on the BRAKE instead of the gas.(right-foot brakers)
I've never heard of any manual shift cars in UA crashes.(because the car
doesn't lurch when shifting into gear,the clutch has control.)
Because, as we both agreed three posts ago, the engine computer isn't
the problem. The problem is people accidentally hitting the gas
instead of the brake. The first defense against this is good
ergonomic design to minimize the chance of this happening. The second
defense is the interlock which is cheaper, more quickly implemented
and more easily mandated by law, if necessary.
Those clever little Nip spin-meisters ! They've had everyone fooled for the
last 25 years--- selling all those rice burners that fall apart two weeks
after the warranty ends and no one but you sees through them!
On that transmission release key slot, that was a specially installed
feature on your car only. Ya' see when the salesman entered your order, he
ticked the box for "Buyer is a whiney nitwit, " So the guys in the back
dropped in a defective tranny with release slot....
On 2/1/08 8:59 PM, in article
Be glad you have a Honda with the slot. On a Nissan, you have to remove the
entire trim piece around the shifter and then guess at what to prod with a
screwdriver to get it to move.
The problem is a stuck shift lock. The cure will either be a simple
adjustment of the switch on the brake pedal that releases it or maybe
replacement of a part.
Should be quick and easy repair. Has nothing to do with the transmission
itself and the warranty should cover it --- unless its "Pepsi Syndrome".
You didn't perchance spill a drink in there to gum it up?
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