Did they do the trim piece "recall" on your cars? They replaced the trim pieces on my car before I had hardly driven it (I think it was two days after I picked it up). The dealer said he had no idea why they had to change them, but this piece is right behind the handle and fairs it into the body. I wonder if that is causing the failure to close and is the reason for the recall.
Matt
I meant to also post this link to the weights.
Actually, isn't the aluminum block 2.7L *lighter* than the cast iron block 2.4L?
Is the 3.3L a cast iron block?
BTW - HP is a silly figure, the greater torque curve dictates the drivability of a car, the peak torque/HP means much less than most people want to put into it..
I do miss my Explorer's ungodly low-end torque... I don't miss the pansy french-built transmissions said torque destroyed...
JS
On mine, if it's stuck out, the car won't lock with the key fob! You think it's locked but it's not! Suprise Suprise.
Matt Whiting wrote in news:0yAng.9$ snipped-for-privacy@news1.epix.net:
I was not aware of that "recall" but I will check into it. What you describe as being replaced seems like the exact spot that is causing me the problem.
Eric
Matt Whiting wrote in news:czAng.10$ snipped-for-privacy@news1.epix.net:
The 07's don't really compare. My GLS only has 16" wheels. I would imagine that is probably 50 lbs. right there, but admittedly, that is a guess. I can only guess at the rest too, since none of the car magazines that I read tested a GLS V6 (all LX's), but you've got a few other things that could easily add up to 50 lbs. or more.
The final drive ratio is so small of a difference it is insignificant, but like you said, the 5 gear ratios could be different. Although both being 5 speeds I would suspect they are similar too.
If you have ever been into reading the car magazines like I have for the last 25 years, you would know that the numbers even they come up with are variable and not always accurate. Car and Driver seems to have the most consistant numbers and it put the LX at 6.6 seconds to 60 MPH. I'd be willing to bet that the GL I4 would be in the low 8's for a 0-60 run. That is a very significant difference. You don't just add 50% more torque and HP and reduce your times by 50%, even if you could keep the weight the same. It is far from a linear relationship.
Eric
"Tom" wrote in news:TEEng.31931$ snipped-for-privacy@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
Don't you open the door from the INSIDE to get out :-) I do, and haven't had that problem yet. I really hate when I am getting in the car and I close the door only to have it pop open again.
Eric
I don't know. I was going simply by the GVW published by Hyundai.
I agree. Torque is the name of the game for all practical purposes. Horsepower's only relevance is for top speed.
Matt
They replaced all four of these little plastic pieces on my car. My door handles worked fine before and after, so I was scratching my head. And then the dealer admitted that they didn't know the purpose for that particular recall either. They did mine at the same time they did the seat recline lever, the cup holder insert and the headliner adhesive.
Matt
I'm 95% sure that the 06 figures were similar with the V-6 models coming in ~200 lbs heavier than the I-4. Unfortunately, I don't see an archive with the 06 data at the Hyundai web site.
Usually standard transmission cars are geared much lower than the automatics so I suspect that the 3.77 really should be for the 5 speed manual and the 3.44 for the 4-speed automatic. Then the 3.33 for the 5 speed automatic would be consistent as it could handle a higher final drive ratio as it likely has a lower 1st gear given the extra gearset.
I was using the numbers Hyundai published. I don't see why they would have any reason to intentionally skew the V-6 vs. the 4 cylinder. I suspect their profit margin is larger on the V-6 so if anything the would want to make the V-6 look better against the 4 rather than worse.
Since F=ma, if the torque is 50% greater then the acceleration will be
50% greater also since this is a linear relationship.However, since x(t) = 1/2*a*t^2, t=sqrt((2*x(t)/a)), the difference in time will vary as to the square root of the change in acceleration. So a 50% increase in acceleration will yield only a 22% reduction in time over a given distance (say 1/4 mile). However, this assumes all else is equal, which it isn't as the V-6 is a couple of hundred pounds heavier and has different gear ratios. I believe the performance posted by Hyundai had the performance difference being only in the 10% range. I posted the stats a while back, but don't remember them precisely from memory now.
Matt
Matt Whiting wrote in news:B0Hng.19$ snipped-for-privacy@news1.epix.net:
My handle works fine about 98% of the time too, so if you had the car only two days before the work was done, you may not have experienced the problem. All of the other "recalls" you mention were done on my car before I picked it up.
Eric
well...one more time...I got 06 Sonata V-6 filters from Haddah Hyundai in Springfield Mass for $6.75 with free shipping...the freeshipping was only for the month of March. I also ordered cabin air filters and engine air filters for Cheap!!! This is the third time I have posted this message...so if you guys want to pay 20 bucks...go ahead!!
OK see my new top post...www.hyundaiparts.net...buy 'em by the case on LINE!!
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