Playing with old Rovers - part one of probably many.

Went to pick up my P6 today.

It was in Stoke, bought unseen by me before I buggered off to Czech, MOTless but taxed until the end of next March - the joys of tax exemption and my first ownership experience of it. Was a hopeful buy but after my previous experiences with P6Bs I wasn't hoping for miracles. Thought I was quite likely buying a load of scrap metal with a few valuable bits and a 10.5:1 Rover V8. Figured it'd probably need at least sills and rear calipers.

So we trundled down to Stoke to collect it. Bloke drives it out of the garage (two good signs), hands me a huge folder full of service history dating back to the mid 70s and I start prodding and poking the Rover looking for impending MOT faults. I'd have to book it in for an MOT in order to drive the thing home. On a hot day. In a P6B, a car notorious for fuel vapourisation issues, on unleaded fuel which seems worse than the old 5 star for boiling.

After 10 minutes with it idling happily away I still haven't found anything particularly shady other than the four wings all having a few very crusty bits. The base unit appears solid as anything, and the MOTs show it doing an average of 700 miles a year since '93. Tyres were replaced a couple of years ago and have done around 2000 miles, a nice bonus. Even the handbrake appears to work. All the electrics work and the oil pressure is a reasonably healthy 30 psi @ idle. Signs of tappet noise, so I'll give it a good flush and change the oil and filter for the stuff I bought for the Rangie. That should help.

So I pay the man and head off to the MOT station, crossing my fingers and putting the RAC on speed-dial. First impressions are that it doesn't feel too bad, steering is a bit wandery and the speedo has a 10 mph wobble zone that doesn't stop, someone's probably kinked the cable. Autobox is a bit thumpy at first, but the temp gauge is happily sitting in the lower end of the green bit, oil pressure is 45 psi on the move and it feels ok. Pinks if you properly nail it, but it will.. they do that unless you back the timing right off.

It's made it through Stoke's infernal traffic, made it along the A500 and onto the M6. It's almost inspiring a bit of confidence now, cruising along at 55 mph / 2500 rpm, mirrors are useless, but the seat is comfy and it's not made any dodgy noises. Seems to be tracking fine, still a couple of inches at the wheel before much happens, but the gauges are all reading happy readings and the ventilation system works. The little vent between the steering column and the speedo is great. Lets up the speed a bit.. yup, it's still happy at a speedo reading of somewhere around 70, 3000 rpm. I'm enjoying this.

Get to the end of the M62 and into Liverpool, first set of lights the oil pressure gauge starts to flicker at idle. Oh bollocks. Panic for a sec, listen to the engine, still sweet, check the temp gauge, still sweet, oil pressure gauge.. 25 psi, all isn't bad. I'll change the oil anyway. To the MOT station. Fingers crossed. Listening for any creaks and rattles, changes in engine sounds.. I hate going for MOTs in unknown cars.

Get to the MOT station, where all the mechanics down tools and come and have a look. The boss wanders out of his office to inspect it. They seem to like it. The apprentice mechanics want to know what the hell it is, but they know it sounds nice. They're pointing at the rusty bits on the wings which is somewhat irritating. They shut up when it's pointed out that the thing is nearly 37 years old.

I then have a tense 40 minute wait while the MOT tester does his thing. It's the first time he's clicked the "Before 1975" button on his gas analyser, that amuses him. I wander about, drinking coffee and chatting to the mechanics in the main workshop while the tester does his thing.

The time arrives. Tester wanders into his office and enters all the data. 5 minutes later he hands me a nice green 12 month MOT and offers to buy the car in a couple of weeks if he can get the money together without his wife freaking out.

It's been a good day.

Reply to
Pete M
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I'm very jealous. Had mine (but it was only the 2200) when I was totally skint and needed a reliable, economical commuter car. Now I'm not skint and don't need a reliable economical, I'd love another P6, especially a V8. What colour is it?

Yes that vent on the steering column is god's own invention. And those padded C pillars perfect for nodding off in the back. And the opening quarterlights...

Reply to
fishman

"Tobacco Leaf". Mid '70s equivalent to wheatgrass, one of those colours nobody sane would choose.

I'd forgotten how cool the old P6s are. My dad had literally hundreds of them in the 70s.

Reply to
Pete M

Every P6 auto I've come across has this set up wrong. The BW 35 relies on just the one cable to set the gearchange speeds by throttle opening and to do the kickdown. And if you have wear in the throttle linkage you loose the kickdown, so most adjust the gearbox cable to get it back - thus fooking up the relationship between the two at low throttle openings which is crucial for smooth changes.

If you follow the shaft which is coupled to the actual carb back to the bulkhead you'll find it pivots in a brass bush inserted into a grommet. The grommet has likely collapsed. Hopefully the bush is still there.

Disconnect the gearbox cable, repair that shaft bearing, and adjust the throttle so with pedal to metal the carbs are fully open. Then connect the gearbox cable so it only just operates the kickdown valve at full throttle. You can feel where the valve operates by pulling the cable.

With this done correctly you should have pretty smooth changes.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

ROFL...it amuses me as well.

Hasn't it? I thought they had aluminium wings? I'm sure they do. At least it'll just be a rub down and repaint.

Reply to
Conor

Heh-heh. I had one of those. Diahorrea brown as the missus calls it.

Reply to
Conor

Ever thought of setting up as a Classic Rover specialist? I'm not kidding...

Reply to
Conor

On Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:09:27 -0700, fishman whimpered:

Me too, I've always wanted a P6. Just not found one available at the right time when I've had money available. My mate's dad had a P5 and a P6B when I was a kid. If I could find a decent one before december when baby arrives, I'd use one as a family car!

Mike P

Reply to
Mike P

Rust suggests otherwise.

Reply to
Pete M

Bonnet is aluminium IIRC, wings are rust-prone steel.

Reply to
Timo Geusch

Bonnet and, I think, boot lid were aluminium on mine.

Reply to
fishman

No - boot lid and bonnet.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

I did used to look after a few for friends. But my day job pays at least as well and I don't get dirty. ;-)

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

I stand corrected. I knew some panels were but I couldn't remember which.

Reply to
Conor

Paprika and Avocado are by far the best two colours there.

Reply to
Doki

So that's what's up with you!

Reply to
Doki

I was thinking Paprika is rather lovely.

This is mine;

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I'd apologise for the s**te picture quality, but I really don't give a f*ck.

Reply to
Pete M

Lucky bastard!! Looks like you got a bargain.

Wish my Rover had been that easy.

So what are your plans now it's roadworthy?

Reply to
Carl Gibbs

Use it for a couple of weeks, move it on.

I've got the P4 to do next...

Reply to
Pete M

No..its the house filling up rapidly with laptops I'm trying to punt on.

Don't suppose you're in the market for one?

Reply to
Conor

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