That Rover 600 thread

...has gotten out of hand!

Poor old OP didn't get an answer eh, mainly due to the yorkshire terrier-esque hanging on and not letting go of an age-old argument.

By the way, my computer's bigger than yours.

More seriously, I'd be tempted by a 600ti. I doubt it'd be as rewarding to drive as my Dedra, as all Rovers I have driven, whilst going round corners, shall we say, competently, the arthiritis-friendly steering lacks too much feel and feedback. Maybe it's just too light. Can't comment specifically on the 600ti's steering though. What I can say is that going from a Rover to the Dedra was weird - it felt like the Dedra had NO power steering in comparison. (and then I got into the Cinquecento. SWMBO will soon be developing Arnie arms) In hindsight, this highly interactive steering setup was quite tiring on cambered roads or in those lorry related grooves in the motorway. Turning circle was bloody brilliant for a car of its size.

I'd like to try a 420GSi Turbo as well, but I don't think they have TorSen or any kind of LSD! Absolute madness - even a ford RS Turbo has one...

Anyway, back to the point. I reckon the 600ti (or 420GSi) would be pretty reliable, and is very good value for money in terms of being able to find a straight road and wellying it. There really is little that comes close for the level of spec - leather, aircon etc etc and at the same time you get this ability to welly it. My Dedra was very much of the "if it's got breasts or an engine it'll cost you" school. The Alcantara interior was divine (if you had the stereo up loud enough to cover the creaking).

The Dedra, like these turbo'd Rovers, just didn't look like a fast car, yet was (and is). This is the beauty of it. Alfas do have that heriatage and reputation for being lively cars, and as such, fade into the background less effectively than the Rover (or the Dedra - cos nobody knew what it was - is that an Octavia mate?). However, the 600ti is available up to far more recently than the Dedra (the red one I have is one of the very last, on an N plate)

The main advantage of the Rover over one of these Alfas and particularly Lancias is that you don't have to get right into the network in order to keep the thing in good nick on a reasonable budget. Anybody will service your Rover for you, and parts are readily available. It doesn't have to become a car/wallet/time menage a trois (of course a car with 'character' reqires this as SteveH rightly pointed out) and if that suits you, the Rover is the car. Otherwise, look at spending /at least/ a grand extra for anything as quick or well equipped and relative drive-and-forget convenience. I'd call the Rover a 'throwaway' Q-car. a casual fling that delivers the fun without opening your wallet or your emotions.

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Fishman19
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Funnily enough - my 'specialist' is nothing of the sort - just a traditional, enthusiastic back-street garage.

I did? - I think you'll find that I keep telling people that, although you need to be pretty anal about the servicing, they are actually pretty cheap to run (very little requires 'specialist parts - our 33 died today, but it's been diagnosed as an ignition amplifier - which is an off-the-shelf Bosch part).

I'd imagine a Rover would be OK in a 'f*ck this things quick' sort of way - but I'd soon tire of that and wish I'd bought something that has a longer lasting charm.

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SteveH

That's what newsgroups are for :)

Yes he did. Well, he got two answers actually, one from a series of owner-drivers, another from a biased obsessive who has never even driven one. Which answer he chooses to go for is at his own discretion :)

I doubt it as well. It's not meant to be, it was an executive mile-muncher.

I'd agree completely, it does border on too light at higher speeds. As with anything you own tho, it's something you get used to. I'd almost call it 'character', but we all know the 600 hasn't got one :)

Same gearbox, including TorSen differential. Slightly longer ratios tho (hence slightly higher top speed that the 600).

It does actually go around corners as well you know :)

Amen.

Not 'opening your emotions' doesn't mean there isn't a hell of a lot of the grin factor involved tho.

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Lordy

have to pretty much agree now, the 620Ti seems the best of the rovers to me. honda built so reliable ect. also has a pretty good spec too and is great on the open road. if i wanted a real replacement for me crappy cavalier i had (was an ok but bland car) then i'd of probably got one. but my way to work and sometimes on the way back involves twisty roads which my MK1 MR2 loves! it's great to be able to take bends at 65mph when lard arse BMW's and struggling to stay with me at 45mph on the bends hehe

i can get a good distance on the bigger beasts on the twistys but gimmie an open road and i'm out done by big mercs and the like easily which i aint bothered with.

SteveH is a funny guy really, a guy asks about a Ti then he goes off on one saying he should buy a BMW or an Alfa. well why? the guy seems to be thinking about an Rover 600 Ti so he's probably been through the others, all that thread showed me is people want different things. meatball turbo wanted a turbo car and loved the 900 he got unusal style, Lordy wanted comfort and speed so he got a Ti, i wanted great handerling and firm suspension so got a MK1 MR2...

at the end say what you like, if i was doing long journeys i'd think of testing out a rover Ti, if i want a bit of bling i'd look at an old merc and add some chrome alloys hehe but i want nippy-ness and back road handerling so might just whack an SC engine in me mk1 and get that rust treated. to some still a s**te MK1 MR2 to me a great ride and it's me with the grin as i leave the brand new 323 beamer at that lights hehe

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Vamp

Some of us are pretty shallow tho remember, heh. This is the longest I've ever owned a car - it's been 3 years to the month now and I still giggle when I press the loud pedal... :)

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Lordy

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