2005 Grand Caravan Initial Poor Quality - Body Control Electronics Module Failure

Aug 10, 2005 6 Replies

My 2005 GC SXT has 1179 miles on it and just came back from its second multi-day stay at the dealership. At 500 miles the instrument panel went dead due to Body Control Module (BCM) failure. This included the following: a) instrument panel dead including no odometer changing with driving b) headlights default on regardless of headlight switch position c) no windshield wiper function d) no A/C function e) no power door functions



This condition remained constant until after the car was parked overnight. In the morning all functions returned but the Engine Service light was active. The dealer read out the OBD port multiple communication failures. Chrysler instructed the dealer to replace the BCM which took several days to arrive. I filed a safety complaint with the NTSB for windshield wiper failure.



Two weeks later the condition repeated itself only the functions reset themselves immediately resulting in Engine Service light activation again. The Engine Service light remained active for several hours (driving + non-driving) and then went out. The dealer read the OBD port again showing the same failures. Chrysler instructed the dealer to flash the BCM with TSB 08-028-05.



I'll see how long this last and whether it really fixes the problem. Out of 3 new Chrysler vehicles I have purchased since 1997, this is the second one with catastrophic problems. Chrysler Customer Service was useless both times. The first vehicle was voluntarily replaced by the dealer when the camshaft broke at 1000 miles and the engine seized. I will never go through this hassle again. No more Chrysler products for me.



mc Minneapolis, MN



It could be a loose ground connection or some other stupid thing like that that will take real diagnostics. But Chrysler as well as other manufacturers have stopped paying dealers for diagnostic time so all they do is change parts out.

You must be unlucky. My '05 T&C has just under 5k miles and we have had no problems with it. Except for the very low city gas mileage, we are very happy with the vehicle.

-------------- Alex

I second the suggestion! I would suggest getting an extended warranty on this one.

Ted

My 04 T&C has had real problems also. The drivers windshield washer stopped working. Then this winter it was hit by a truck and last month a car backed into the front driver's fender. I think I should get a refund. [Really, it has been close to perfect at 40,000 miles except for a slight transmission hum with power on].

Richard.

Hola from México: I just had the very same failure on our new Voyager 2005 *that?s how Chrysler branded the Caravan here* the panel dead and then the service light went on and then it went back to normal, Does anybody have a Service bulletin number of that failure, so I can ask the dealer for it? Thank u in advance

"michaelcjeep" wrote:

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"JMendez" wrote: > Hola from México: > I just had the very same failure on our new Voyager 2005 > *that's how Chrysler branded the Caravan here* the panel dead > and then the service light went on and then it went back to > normal, Does anybody have a Service bulletin number of that > failure, so I can ask the dealer for it? > Thank u in advance > > > > > > [quote:82ee8eec18="michaelcjeep"]My 2005 GC SXT has 1179 miles > on it and just came back from its second > multi-day stay at the dealership. At 500 miles the instrument > panel > went dead due to Body Control Module (BCM) failure. This > included the > following: > a) instrument panel dead including no odometer changing with > driving > b) headlights default on regardless of headlight switch > position > c) no windshield wiper function > d) no A/C function > e) no power door functions > > This condition remained constant until after the car was > parked > overnight. In the morning all functions returned but the > Engine > Service light was active. The dealer read out the OBD port > multiple > communication failures. Chrysler instructed the dealer to > replace the > BCM which took several days to arrive. I filed a safety > complaint with > the NTSB for windshield wiper failure. > > Two weeks later the condition repeated itself only the > functions reset > themselves immediately resulting in Engine Service light > activation > again. The Engine Service light remained active for several > hours > (driving + non-driving) and then went out. The dealer read > the OBD > port again showing the same failures. Chrysler instructed the > dealer > to flash the BCM with TSB 08-028-05. > > I'll see how long this last and whether it really fixes the > problem. > Out of 3 new Chrysler vehicles I have purchased since 1997, > this is the > second one with catastrophic problems. Chrysler Customer > Service was > useless both times. The first vehicle was voluntarily > replaced by the > dealer when the camshaft broke at 1000 miles and the engine > seized. I > will never go through this hassle again. No more Chrysler > products for > me. > > mc > Minneapolis, MN[/quote:82ee8eec18] :( :( :( :(

:) An update... After some research in the net I?ve found the failure and repair procedure, here is the link

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the problem now will be to make our Mexican Chrysler dealer toperform such repair since they had no idea of the failure ornotification from Daimler Chrysler Mexico... I will let you know howit goes. saludos :(

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