Re: Losing control of the fuel efficiency debate

"...if there is a second Clinton administration, led by Sen. Hillary

> Clinton, she plans to push to double the fuel economy of U.S. cars and > trucks to 55 miles per gallon by 2030. > > "Sen. Clinton's ambitious energy platform is just one sign of how the > auto industry has lost control of the fuel efficiency debate after two > decades of successfully spinning demands for tougher mileage standards > as assaults on safety, jobs and freedom. It was a great, V-8 powered > ride. Now it's over..." > > Wall Street Journal:
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Excellent.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom
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Now there is a dreamy, pulled from the sky number.

Sounds good, lets demand that automakers DOUBLE the mpg they get!

Somebody just needs to tell her never held a job, doesn't know anything about chemistry or mechanics, liberal, educated idiot ass that this just can't be done.

Reply to
Scott

Is that 55 number for all models from a manufacturer? Or, is it an average to be reached for an entire model line?

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

She's an idiot, period. And another political hack who prefaces her "save the world" facade with phrases like, "We need to ."

Needs. Never solutions.

Reply to
witfal

This is common, however, to set goals that seem impossible, but timespans that leave no one remembering how all this crap got started.

IF we could average 55 mpg, that would be superb...And we will never do it unless goals are set and results demanded. (No, I dont think it is possible by todays standards, but who knows??)

Reply to
HLS

It would have to be the latter. 55 mpg is never going to happen for pickups. I can imagine trying to tow a boat with a 55 mpg truck.

Right.

Reply to
witfal

Shhhhhh....let's see what Scott says.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

Uh oh. Some idiot's going to interpret the word "nudge" to mean GUVMINT CONTROL DROOL BURP YOU'RE A SOCIALIST.

Heh. :-)

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

Which ones?

Do you have any references for these cars that have been available for decades?

Reply to
Elmo P. Shagnasty

Please explain to me what solutions were offered by the Bush/Cheney administration. My fuel costs doubled, my salary/cost of living/cost of health picture is worse, my health costs prevent my retirement, and my grandchildren will never see a balanced budget or recovery from massive war debts.

I am more than ready for change. I think I am ready for Ron Paul.

Reply to
DanG

He can't, because there has been only one car I can remember that ever got that kind of mileage and sold more than a few cars.

Honda made a 600 around 1970 that got 55 or so. It made a mini cooper look big, and they probably just buried anybody killed in an accident with the car because they couldn't get them out of it.

This is what will meet the 55 mpg Hillary wants. There is no magical "technology" that is greately going to improve fuel mileage. Microelectronics have already made the small gains in fuel economy that are possible with computer engine management.

Reply to
Scott

Volkswagen Rabbit Diesel came pretty close.

Reply to
badgolferman

For everyone ELSE to drive. She, otoh, will continue to be driven around in gas-gulping SUVs and limos.

After all, she's worth it.

Reply to
witfal

When you find someone who will make a Prius bulletproof, please pass the information on to ALL political candidates, all of whom will always use big cars.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

I'd rather put them all in an airtight anything. For a few days.

The best story involves Maxine Waters, an embarrassment from Los Angeles. She couldn't be troubled to walk 300 feet for lunch.

Her Ford Expedition shuttled her the 100 yards needed to feed her ample girth.

Reply to
witfal

Let me guess: Bad knees, but hereditary, nothing to do with her eating a container of Bon Bons every day.

Reply to
JoeSpareBedroom

That's it. It's always hereditary.

Reply to
witfal

Maxine Waters is not overweight. Witless just pulled "ample girth" out of his ass. More stereotypes.

Reply to
F.H.

Not to worry, you can just pay a huge gas guzzler TAX and you can drive what you want.

This way the Hillerbeast gets what she wants, tax money.

Reply to
ScottM

There comes a time when increasing gas mileage is a losing game, and becomes impossible. I realize fully that mfr.s have made enormous strides (I used to get 10 miles per gallon from a Pontiac convertible I had in college, when gas was about 30c,) but there is a point where mileage can't be increased, and demanding that it be increased is like demanding that they sew buttons on zephyrs of wind.

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mack

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