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Is it an automatic or manual transmission? Which recall did you have done? It could be a failed relay from the recall. You may need the latest recall if you don't have it already.

I'd also pull the codes from the DIC and follow up on

Common problem. From the Corvette Forum: Q I still get the "Pull Key and Wait 10 Seconds" message and "Service Steering Column Lock" message? What do I do now?

A1 Sometimes the latching relay in the CLB can get out of sync sending the wrong status to your BCM. This has happened to a few folks even with the CLB installed. The CLB latching relay gets out of sync with the BCM possibly due to shock, vibration or relay contact bounce during switching which confused the BCM. The CLB does not physically know which state it should be in; it only switches from one state to the other when it receives a signal from the BCM. The BCM can be reset by pulling Fuse

A2 Check to make sure Fuse 25 in passenger footwell is good.

A3 Verify the black wire to your ECL or CLB is grounded (zero ohms resistance).

A5 Verify the green wire to the ECL or CLB is shorted to ground while in the "UNLOCKED" position and +12Vdc while in the "LOCKED" position.

ZÿRiX wrote:

Thx I will look into this with a friends help as he is a little more familiar with Vette's...

Auto Which recall did you have done? column lock It could be a failed relay from the recall. You may need the

My friend at a caddy dealer pulled it up on his scanner and said there was no codes thats why he was so puzzled

Retest with new scanner... codes that were pulled

B0432 B2588 B2593 B2597 B2721 B2723 B0503 B0508

For some reason they don't show up as you have them listed, here's what I found.

P0432 Catalyst System Low Efficiency Bank 2 P0503 Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) Circuit Intermittent P1508 Idle Speed Low - Idle Air Control (IAC) System Not Responding B2721 Pass-Key detection circuit (out of range)

Not much to go on and only one as you show them.

Sorry, not much information and my file was created 6/22/2002 so they should have been in it.

Thx dad I will get a printout from him...

Found this here tell me what you think Dad

B0432 Rear Defogger Relay Circuit

B2588 Column Lock/Unlock Drive A

B2593 Column Lock/Unlock Drive B

B2597 Traction Control System Switch Circuit

B2721 PASS-Key Detection Circuit

B2723 PASS-Key Detection Circuit

B0503 RH DRL Relay Circuit

B0508 LH DRL Relay Circuit

No wonder foreign cars are taking over the market...what a lot of crap to put up with. Does GM have any engineers that know anything...????

Ah, but there's good news: If you pay extra for OnStar, you (and your service advisor) get it over the Internet. I've had an intermittent & bogus, "loose gas cap" warning for ages.

BMW doesn't do much better. My neighbor has had a bogus 'thin pad' diagnostic for over a year.

Hey GM: What we need is a 'confidence level' and 'probability' on each code. That otta keep the software guys busy for another decade.

I love the lone wolf reply, the original post was a try to find out in advance what the problem is. No where did he say that GM has looked at his car. Later a mechanic, not stated as a GM mechanic, extracted the trouble codes. In all his negative thinking all of a sudden lone wolf knows that GM engineers don't know anything. In all of his chest thumping about when he run his shop his activity or credentials are never mentioned. The "shop" may well have sold floor mats and he installed them with his special talent being the value added.

Can you be of any help lone wolf or do you just want to bitch about something you seem to have little or no control over, plus lack of positive impute?

Now that the codes are known it is a matter of checking the function of and the connection to each sensor that is sending a fault code. That will quickly tell you if it's problem up stream of the sensors/connection or a computer failure.

PJ- I had the gas cap problem but its ratchet mechanism had broken soon after that and would not tighten, replaced it with the cap off my other GM vehicle and the message went away. Stopped at the dealer and picked up a new cap and the message has never returned. May be that simple or it could be the sensor/connection.

No signature, don't want to push lone wolf over the edge--------

Thx Dad

Well said!

Thanks for the tip on the ratchet Dad. Thought for awhile that I was overfilling the tank but that wasn't the case. No sweat, the car needs a locking cap anyway. (C4 got the Philadelphia credit card treatment a couple of years back and that's when petrol was around $ 1.65 a gallon.)

Try this:

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Thanks. I know what the codes mean from the wonderful internet.

Even when the codes first appeared, there were no other symptoms of trouble; the pump was actually running during a cold engine start, there was no sign of pump corrosion, all the hoses looked OK.

The check engine light went out by itself about a week ago and has stayed off. I thought one needed an OBD reader to reset these warnings. any comments?

Jeff Strickland wrote: > > P1421 and P1432? (not P1423) > >

- now I >> > > know what that thing is that sounds like a vacuum cleaner. >> > >

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Guess it's time to trade in those cars and buy a "reliable" Honda and you'll even have money left over to feed your family :-)

Those that own hondas should not reproduce even if they know how or are shown how by ADC. ;-)

if it had to be explained ? you probably wouldn't understand :-)

Are you trying to trace me? Gee I must have really offended you or others by my earlier post to warrant this. Well, I was just trying to add a sense of humor.

I know that Honda will never be a performance car or in the same league but we can say it the other way too. That said, I think a good pair of cars would be a Honda and a Corvette so when the vette is in repair, the Honda can take over. I don't think there is a lot of dispute as to which will need less repairs tho it can also work in reverse too and when the Honda is in repair the vette can take over. Perhaps the best of BOTH worlds??? You know, when I dwell on this thought, I wouldn't mind that combo but I'll leave that to the owner(s) to decide .

I agree but that isn't a problem for me :-) .