Armed citizen stops Utah shooting

This is why we need concealed carry! If it had not been for this off-duty officer's concealed weapon many more people would have been killed and seriously wounded!

Off-duty officer called hero after Utah rampage An off-duty officer celebrating an early Valentine's Day with his wife repeatedly fired at a gunman who killed five people and wounded four at a shopping mall and "saved the lives" of numerous others, the police chief said Tuesday.

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Stormin Mormon
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Agreed. But only after a background check and firearm course.

Did the cop hit the gunman?

Reply to
Roy

yawn

Reply to
GeekBoy

Read the article!

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Glad I live in a right-to-carry state. And I do.

Wolfie

Reply to
Wolfie

Your point?

Reply to
Roy

Geeeeze..... Ya coulda said they have not said if he did or not.

Reply to
Roy

Much lower crime there?

Reply to
Stormin Mormon

Like the saying is "Fences make good neighbors" If everyone had a gun, unlike in DC where only criminals had guns

Reply to
GeekBoy

Actually you live ina right to carry country; see US Const, Amend Two.

Reply to
GeekBoy

Same here.

Ken

Reply to
NapalmHeart

Some states don't follow the law.

Ken

Reply to
NapalmHeart

I think that some states put some super tough restriction's on ccw permits. My state,MA, makes it kinda tough. But I figure if it keeps a handgun out of a idiot's hand so be it. What I don't like is the restriction's they put on what guns can be sold in the state. They also raised the cost of the permit to $100.00 for 5 years. But we gladly pay it.

Roy Roy

Reply to
Roy

New Jersey, for example. Kinda communist if you ask me.

Craig C.

Reply to
Craig C.

Yes. I posted, not too long ago, the crime stats for Texas since

1996. There has been a sizable drop in nearly all crime, but especially violent crime.

Arming the good guys works. Period.

Craig C.

Reply to
Craig C.

Why do you say that?

Roy

Reply to
Roy

As of one year ago, purchasing a weapon is damn near impossible much less carrying one (in fact, jail time if you're caught with a firearm) and a set of tax laws that would choke a horse. :-)

Here's the crime stats I eluded to in my other post in this thread:

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Texas got CC in 1996. Interesting to see the numbers before and after ...

Craig C.

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Craig C.

Take a look here:

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Then look in state ccw info, interesting stuff.

Roy

Reply to
Roy

Good link. Jersey is worse than I thought.

(1) Issuance of the permit is almost completely discretionary, and New Jersey courts have upheld the policy of strictly limiting permits ``to persons specifically employed in security work . . . and to others who can establish an urgent necessity for carrying guns for self- protection". While NJ does issue non resident permits, few are allowed, and they are harder to obtain than a resident permit.

You have to provide a justifiable need to carry. I wonder if "I want to kill the criminal before he/she kills me" will work?

Texas is pretty easy. Take a course. Written test. Range test. Pay the fee and BLAM ... after they verify that you aren't a nutcase, you can carry. $140.00 for a four year permit.

Craig C.

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Craig C.

Agree about the carry part - but what makes it "damn near impossible" to purchase one? I can buy any long gun I want whenever I want. Handguns are a little different - gotta apply for a purchase permit, which takes my local PD about twice the legal limit (statute says 30 days - usually takes 60+), but that's far from an impossibility.

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Tom Lawrence

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