This is why we need concealed carry! If it had not been for this
off-duty officer's concealed weapon many more people would have
been killed and seriously wounded!
Off-duty officer called hero after Utah rampage An off-duty
officer celebrating an early Valentine's Day with his wife
repeatedly fired at a gunman who killed five people and wounded
four at a shopping mall and "saved the lives" of numerous others,
the police chief said Tuesday.
Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
I haven't heard them say one way or another. It appears the off duty
cop pinned the gunman into one part of the mall preventing the gunman
from moving around and killing more. The gunman wasn't shot until other
Kinda hard to answer that. Lower than where? And lower than when?
Where I live the population density is extremely low and we are
relatively remote. But we have our share of low-lifes and tweakers
in the woods. The closest law enforcement on a good day is at least
10 miles away. So, as far as my own property and my immediate area
is concerned, the crime rate is zero. In part, I suspect, due to the
fact that out here most everybody's strapped. And everybody knows it.
On Feb 15, 8:58 am, "Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61-
I think that some states put some super tough restriction's on ccw permits.
My state,MA, makes it kinda tough. But I figure if it keeps a handgun out of
a idiot's hand so be it. What I don't like is the restriction's they put on
what guns can be sold in the state.
They also raised the cost of the permit to $100.00 for 5 years. But we
gladly pay it.
I have no problems with requiring a background check. I have no problems
with requiring training. I have a big problem with allowing arbitrary
discretion, thereby creating an "elite" class of citizens.
Imagine if the same type of discretion were given to the issuance of a
driver's license (something NOT specifically addressed in the
Constitution)... "no, I'm sorry Mr. Smith - we just don't feel you've
provided a justifiable need to operate a motor vehicle. There's plenty of
public transportation options available to you". There would be an
incredible outrage. But - take a right that the USC says "shall not be
infringed", and infringe the hell out of it... not too many people seem to
Land of the Free.... who in the hell are we kidding?
The problem is that restrictions on Concealed Pistol Permits don't stop
idiots from getting or carrying handguns. The laws only affect those who
choose to obey them. I see many such idiots every day, as I work in a
prison. Laws and police are mainly reactive rather than proactive. They
clean up messes and put perpetrators in the system.
Consider this point, that "pistol-free zones" tell criminals that their odds
of having armed resistance is much lower if they do their criminal acts in
such zones (or states).
In my state,New Hampshire the issuing of permits is up to the local police
chief. An applicant fills out a form saying that he doesn't suffer from
mental health,isn't a felon and is a resident. Then a State Criminal check
is run and if clean it's good for 4 years for either $20. or $30.00. I'm a
cop and have been for many years so I don't need a permit,although I always
get one so that I have a history of having permits for the past 30+years.
With President Bush signing the Police protection act I don't need one
anywhere. Just my Dept. ID.
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