I had read and heard that. I have only seen ONE Hybrid Accord on the
road. My uncle owns it. In contrast, the Hybrid Civic is selling like
hotcakes down here! I see them all over. Prius is still more popular,
but that is a matter of marketing and could be remedied if Honda wanted.
I also read that Honda plans to have a clean-diesel version of the Fit
If they are poor they didn't buy a hybrid to save the environment. They
mistakingly bought it thinking they'll save money on gas. People are in
a frenzy about the cost of gas and just don't add up other expenses.
They didn't for the most part. The design teams are in the USA. So are
the design teams for Nissan and Toyota.
To an extent thats true. People have always tried to save money where
they can. So lets see, $7000 towards a hybrid or $7000 towards the
kids college fund for example. So to be 'Green' should Americans just
pay the extra $7000 for a clean car? Hmm...that money goes to the
greedy corporate auto manufactures.
My mistake. Honda is dropping the Accord Hybrid. Toyota is talking
about dropping the Camry hybrid as well.
True but if a Dem is elected you'll see that erased by higher taxes.
Their very first action taken when they gained control of congress was
to change the way taxes are raised. It now takes only a simple majority
instead of 2/3's congress to pass a tax increase bill.
I traded in my 2001 Ram QC for a Dodge Caliber. Went from 12mpg to
28mpg. Not as good as a hybrid but far lower cost. I'm doing my part!!
Well.... maybe..... before y'all jump on the hybrid bandwagon, a visit to
this website might prove illuminating...
As in all the hype about global warming, things aren't always as they
<tink> (sound of worm can opening)
In responce to Mike Simmons 's post. I thought everyone should know:
I've said it before and i'll say it again......of course we are in a state
of global warming and have been since the last ice age....THERE!
Whether you believe that global warming is actually occurring or not (I
do based on the data from experiments I have personally been involved
in), one thing we can agree on is that we should leave the earth, at the
very least, in as good or better shape as we found it.
With the population booming, that means that we have to do better with
emissions from cars and industry.
Put whatever spin you want on it, whether it be global warming, lung
cancer from bad air, neurological disorder from bad water, etc. ... the
need to control the pollution is the key.
I don't disagree in principle with any of the above..... however, (there's
always a however, isn't there?).... I am not convinced that the global
warming is entirely man induced, nor do I believe that global warming is
necessarily bad. Several economic studies have shown that there may indeed
be a net benefit from global warming. Nor do I sign on with the the crowd
(Al Gore types mainly) that say that because of global warming the world
will come to an end. If we subscribe to their panic and adopt their
proposed solutions, we will create economic chaos that would make any
negative effects from global warming look like a walk in the (albeit warm)
Roy, though I think that hybrids are a great idea, miles does have a
point. My wife is thinking about a Toyota Highlander Hybrid, but I
have gotten her to look at the Yaris also. They have a little 4 door
sedan that is actually pretty nice looking, rather roomy and peppy
too. As I recall it gets about 45 - 50 mpg and was only like 14k
I looked at them. I'm leaning toward Toyota Camry 'cause they have been
doing it for quite some time. They usually put out a very good product, they
are a fairly decent size and they do real well if you have the misfortune to
get involved in a accident.
Those cars are already around sort of. Biodiesel is often made from palm
oil, but that's made from the fruit, not the fronds. It's becoming a problem
in the tropical rain-forests. The rain-forests are being cleared to make
room for oil producing palm plantations. For this reason some consider
biodiesel worse than fossil fuels.
Interesting article here:
Note: I make biodiesel from /waste/ vegetable oil that has already been used
in restaurant fryers and discarded. I don't use palm oil.
Another difference to me would be whether you finance it.. I'd be more inclined
to go hybrid if I wasn't paying cash for it..
The payment difference on the more expensive car should be less than the fuel
savings if the interest rate is decent...
I'm a firm believer that cash on hand is nice, but cash FLOW is what decides how
Please remove splinters before emailing
Not sure I follow your logic there. If a car costs 7,000 more to get
the hybrid version then you'll pay that much more plus the increased
interest over the life of the loan. Your savings in gas over that time
period will almost certainly not cover the increased cost whether paid
monthly or in a lump sum.
Back to my Honda Civic example!
Gas Civic DX for $16000 @ 5%/5 years = $302/month
Hybrid Civic for $23000 % 5%/5 years = $434/month
Drive 20000 miles/year = 1667 miles/month
1667/30mpg Gas * $3/gallon = $167/month
1667/50mpg Hybrid * $3/gallon = $100
Gas cost difference $67/month
Loan difference = $132/month
No way to get there from here! Can't generate free money. lol
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