Dual exhaust; is it the clearance?

Hey all, how goes it? I've wondered about this for some time now. So many people get the catback systems and some get headers too. But a large majority of them keep stuffing it down that damn Y pipe. I just can't see duals as coming from a single pipe. Can't justify headers going to a single pipe. Mildly irritates me every time I'm under the car and see that mushed driver side pipe too. Is it just the clearance that prevents most people from putting in Actual duals? Admittedly I haven't had time to actually measure or give it the eye with the thought of pulling it all out and replacing it. If it makes a difference in 4th gen bodies, I have the '99 TA. ~~~~~~ Bait for spammers: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost postmaster@[127.0.0.1] snipped-for-privacy@ftc.gov ~~~~~~ Remove "spamless" to email me.

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Overlord
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Mostly it comes from the EPA. Most exhaust shops will not bend you duals, or even sell you a dual in dual out converter.

I have had a 3rd gen with true duals. Both pipes (2 inch) followed the orginal routing. The Y pipe had been cut before the merge, and welded to two seperate pipes. The car had glass packs where the converter should have been.

I removed this set up, and went with a custom 3 inch set up. Including a Custom 3 inch Y pipe, 3 inch in, 3 inch out converter. The car did not slow down any. It did improve mid range torque, while dropping low end torque by a hair. Charles

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Charles Bendig

Hmmm, EPA as in those deals during inspections where they check the exhaust gases at the tail pipe? Never have had one of those tho I've heard of 'em. Seems if you went dual cats it wouldn't be any sort of a problem in any case. I've run glasspack Thrush mufflers back in the '70s but in a different state. Grew up in Maryland where/when you inspected the car twice; once when you bought it and once when you sold it. No doubt that's changed. I live in Texas now and have never seen an exhaust inspection. With every damn well spewing poison gas into the air it seems pretty ridiculous. Worked with a lot of guys that got killed on the job, dragged some out who the gas had put down but then that's what we did. It wasn't the safest line of work. Some of 'em had to get dragged out several times and the pieces collected.

I suspect I can get whatever I like bent around here tho. Cutouts would be nice... Mid range would be nice. I'll ask around and see. ~~~~~~ Bait for spammers: root@localhost postmaster@localhost admin@localhost abuse@localhost postmaster@[127.0.0.1] snipped-for-privacy@ftc.gov ~~~~~~ Remove "spamless" to email me.

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Overlord

I was at a exhuast shop a few years back. Talking with the owner about making a set of duals, sans cats, for a off road late model truck we had. The truck never went on highway, unless it was on a trailer.

The owner told me the EPA rules prevented him from doing such for me. This is a place that I have dealt with for close to 10 years now. First I had heard of it my self. It may be the OHIO EPA, since most ohio countys have emmissions testing. As well as the state has an Anti-tampering law.

Charles

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Charles Bendig

Fact is with high flow cats, your vehicle will NOT lose performance AND stay emission legal.

With that being said, most shops don't want to mess around with that stuff and what's "exempt" and what's "not exempt". For them, if it came with a cat, it gets one when it's repaired.

Joe--ASE Certified Parts Specialist & 10th Ann.Club Tech Director '80 Carousel Red Turbo T/A, 26k orig. '79 "Y89" 400/4 speed 10th Ann. T/A, 57k orig '84 Olds 88 Royale Bgm 2 dr, 307 "Rocket" (lol), 141k and still going.... '80 T/A project car...

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Bigjfig

i had a 197 camaro iroc-z with a 355 tpi. i had duels with headers on it. i just had 2 1/2 inch ran with glasspacks and turndowns before the rear wheels, and no cats. i live in michigan and there is laws against it but it is not checked like it is in some states. and it ran great

13's in the 1/4. but my 1987 with a 355 has headers with a 3 inch pipe into a flowmaster and duel 2 1/2 tail pipes out with no cat and sounds alot better.

RICH HORSEPOWER IS CHEAPER THEN THERAPY!

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Rich None

IT WAS A 1987 CAMARO IROC-Z .

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Rich None

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