The last page of the PDF just shows the Amsoil logo.
The second from the last page shows a list of the test
The third from the last page shows a notorized affidavit signed
by an Amsoil employee in their home county in Wisconsin, note,
they spelled Amsoil [Asmoil] wrong.
Nothing independent here. Certainly nothing to support anything
other than Amsoil hyping their own overpriced product.
"Where you'll find this comment from a Mr. Childers;
Here we are at our first sample in the Mobil 1 re-test. Nothing
unusual so far. It sure is nice to have a smooth-running engine
again! The extra vibration from the over-thick Amsoil was getting
A paper authored by a company employee notarized in that
companies home county hardly qualifies as anything other than
You have yet to provide any proof.
Fox guarding the hen house have any meaning to you?
BTW, why did you snip my reply to your second link, the one where
the comment was made that the engine runs better and doesn't have
an annoying vibration now that the Amsoil has been replaced with
Lastly, any legitimate professional mechanic can access pictures
and text on i-ATN posted by the owner of Continental Imports in
Gainsville Florida of a late model BMW that was sludged up from
the owner using Amsoil. Clearly, this oil is not all it's made
out to be and survives only by virtue of the brainwashing
techniques its promoters use on hapless dupes such as yourself.
Link to what? I was only resposding to your assertion that synthetic
oils can't form sludge. They certainly can. The blow-by (water,
unburned hydrocarbons, etc) can combine with the oil to make a mess. On
the other hand true synthetics (not the faux syynthetic Amsoil XL
product line) are much more resistent to coking than petroleum based
oils and therfore less likely to forn the yucky gummy crap that was
clogging Toyota engines in the recent past.
Well it ironic that they went this route after trashing Syntec when it
was first introduced and after years of touting the wonders of fully
synthetic oil. They used to have a long BS explanation of why they used
the Group III oil for the XL Line instead of a true synthetic, but in
the end it pretty much could be distilled down to "because we can get
away with it and make more money."
If you want links here are some I like:
http://theoildrop.server101.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic ;f=1;t 9433
If is my personal opinion that there is nothing "wrong" with Amsoil,
but that there is nothing particulalrly special about it either. The
only way you can justify the high cost is to also buy the long drain
interval claims. And these are bogus in my opinion - at least to the
extent that there is something unique about the Amsoil products that
allow them to last significaantly longer than other motor oils that
meet the current service categories. And there is no way I am going to
use non-API logo oil while my car is under warranty. The M-M Warranty
act protects you if you don't use the manufacturer's oil but it doesn't
protect you if you use oil that doesn't meet the manufacturer's
I cant give you a scientific test to show it, but I can give you a real life
test to prove it.
in 1988 I bought a ford superduty diesel. the body shop next to me bought
the sister truck to use as a wrecker.
both trucks were identical. both trucks had banks turbos put on them within
500 miles of purchase, within 1 week of each other.
the first thing the body shop did was drop the oil, and put in amsoil
synthetic. they were an amsoil dealer, and swore by it.
I put valvoline all fleet plus in mine.
by 1992, both trucks had about 45,000 miles on them. I did nothing but
change my oil every 3,000 miles. they went with the amsoil recommended 5,000
mile oil change, and had to replace 4 turbos and 2 engines, due to lack of
in late 92, they stopped selling amsoil, and switched to 5,000 mile oil
changes using all fleet plus, and have not had any engine problems in
275,000 miles now.
oops, I just realized you wanted proof that spamsoil was good, not that it
A tow truck is under far greater stress than a non-tow truck is. You
say they went with the 5,000 mile oil change that Amsoil
recomends...well sorry, but Amsoil doesn't make an oil where they
specify a 5,000 mile oil chanage.
That said, your probably just making the whole thing up trying to make
Amsoil look bad an boost your ego.
you are 100% correct spamsoil does not recommend a 5,000 mile oil change.
boost my ego??? be realistic here. you could drop off 10 free tractor
trailers full of your crap at my shop, and I still would not use it. I have
seen way to many engines and turbos that were ruined by spamsoil to ever
switch from tried and true valvoline all fleet plus. and with the 10k mile
service on the large trucks,(over 30k lbs) and the 3k mile service on the
small vehicles, (under 30k lbs) and 100 hour service on the heavy equipment,
I use over 8,000 gallons of valvoline all fleet plus per year.
I thought I had seen an extended drain interval mentioned on the Amsoil
site, so I looked up the Amsoil 10w-30 change recommendations quoted
here from the Amsoil web site:
AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for extended drain
intervals in unmodified(1), mechanically sound(2) gasoline fueled
vehicles as follows:
? Normal Service(3) ? Up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever
? Severe Service(4) ? Up to 15,000 miles or one year, whichever
? Replace AMSOIL Ea full-flow oil filter at the time of oil change
up to 25,000 miles (other brands at standard OEM* intervals).
? In all other applications, extend the oil change interval
according to oil analysis or follow the OEM* drain interval.
*OEM ? Original Equipment Manufacturer
(1) Where the engine or operating conditions have been modified from
the original manufacturers? design, drain oil at the owner?s discretion
or extend based on oil analysis. Examples include the use of performance
computer chips; modified exhaust, fuel or air induction systems; and the
use of fuels other than those recommended for normal operation by the
(2) Engines are in good working condition and within the factory
design settings. Mechanically sound engines, for example, do not leak
oil or consume excessive amounts, are not worn out, do not overheat, do
not have internal or external anti-freeze leaks and have properly
working emission control systems. AMSOIL recommends repairing
malfunctioning engines prior to the installation of AMSOIL synthetic
(3) Non-turbo/non-supercharged personal transportation vehicles
frequently traveling greater than 10 miles at a time and not operating
under severe service.
(4) Turbo/supercharged vehicles, commercial or fleet vehicles,
extensive engine idling, first and subsequent use of AMSOIL engine oil
in vehicles with 100,000 miles or greater, daily short trip driving
(less than 10 miles), frequent towing, plowing or hauling heavy loads
and frequent driving in dusty conditions."
Address fake until the SPAM goes away ;-}
Crap? Sorry, but Amsoil isn't crap no matter how much you think it
is. You must be the only one thats seen any damage caused by Amsoil.
One of the local truck drivers has a Mack dump truck and has over 100k
on Amsoil, and runs a good used oil analysis program. He does change
the filters and top off as needed. Sounds like your in the pocket of
well, think what you will. but so far in the three or so days this thread
has gone on, there have been only 2 people that have stood up for spamsoil,
and they were both dealers. ant the spamsoil dealers could not even get
their stories rite.
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