Amsoil and Non-API Licensing & Warrenty Issues

you are 100% correct spamsoil does not recommend a 5,000 mile oil change. ford does. boost my ego??? be realistic here. you could drop off 10 free tractor trailers full of your crap at my shop, and I still would not use it. I have seen way to many engines and turbos that were ruined by spamsoil to ever switch from tried and true valvoline all fleet plus. and with the 10k mile service on the large trucks,(over 30k lbs) and the 3k mile service on the small vehicles, (under 30k lbs) and 100 hour service on the heavy equipment, I use over 8,000 gallons of valvoline all fleet plus per year.

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Tom
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Sludge is not necessarily formed from wax. And besides, the Amsoil XL product line is made from highly refined Group III Petroleum Oils (like Castrol Syntec).

Ed

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Ed White

I thought I had seen an extended drain interval mentioned on the Amsoil site, so I looked up the Amsoil 10w-30 change recommendations quoted here from the Amsoil web site:

"SERVICE LIFE AMSOIL Synthetic 10W-30 Motor Oil is recommended for extended drain intervals in unmodified(1), mechanically sound(2) gasoline fueled vehicles as follows:

=3F Normal Service(3) =3F Up to 25,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.

=3F Severe Service(4) =3F Up to 15,000 miles or one year, whichever comes first.

=3F Replace AMSOIL Ea full-flow oil filter at the time of oil change up to 25,000 miles (other brands at standard OEM* intervals).

=3F In all other applications, extend the oil change interval according to oil analysis or follow the OEM* drain interval.

*OEM =3F Original Equipment Manufacturer

(1) Where the engine or operating conditions have been modified from the original manufacturers=3F design, drain oil at the owner=3Fs discretion or extend based on oil analysis. Examples include the use of performance computer chips; modified exhaust, fuel or air induction systems; and the use of fuels other than those recommended for normal operation by the manufacturers.

(2) Engines are in good working condition and within the factory design settings. Mechanically sound engines, for example, do not leak oil or consume excessive amounts, are not worn out, do not overheat, do not have internal or external anti-freeze leaks and have properly working emission control systems. AMSOIL recommends repairing malfunctioning engines prior to the installation of AMSOIL synthetic oils.

(3) Non-turbo/non-supercharged personal transportation vehicles frequently traveling greater than 10 miles at a time and not operating under severe service.

(4) Turbo/supercharged vehicles, commercial or fleet vehicles, extensive engine idling, first and subsequent use of AMSOIL engine oil in vehicles with 100,000 miles or greater, daily short trip driving (less than 10 miles), frequent towing, plowing or hauling heavy loads and frequent driving in dusty conditions."

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Andy

So are you going to post a link or not?

Yes Amsoil XL oils are Group III, which is why I don't use them.

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Andy

Link to what? I was only resposding to your assertion that synthetic oils can't form sludge. They certainly can. The blow-by (water, unburned hydrocarbons, etc) can combine with the oil to make a mess. On the other hand true synthetics (not the faux syynthetic Amsoil XL product line) are much more resistent to coking than petroleum based oils and therfore less likely to forn the yucky gummy crap that was clogging Toyota engines in the recent past.

Well it ironic that they went this route after trashing Syntec when it was first introduced and after years of touting the wonders of fully synthetic oil. They used to have a long BS explanation of why they used the Group III oil for the XL Line instead of a true synthetic, but in the end it pretty much could be distilled down to "because we can get away with it and make more money."

If you want links here are some I like:

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If is my personal opinion that there is nothing "wrong" with Amsoil, but that there is nothing particulalrly special about it either. The only way you can justify the high cost is to also buy the long drain interval claims. And these are bogus in my opinion - at least to the extent that there is something unique about the Amsoil products that allow them to last significaantly longer than other motor oils that meet the current service categories. And there is no way I am going to use non-API logo oil while my car is under warranty. The M-M Warranty act protects you if you don't use the manufacturer's oil but it doesn't protect you if you use oil that doesn't meet the manufacturer's specifications.

Ed

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Ed White

To this place in Florida .

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Andy

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Andy

Oh, Andy, you have no right to condemn someone else's spelling when your spelling and punctuation is no better. Shame, shame!!

SC Tom

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SC Tom

What place in Florida?

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aarcuda69062

Andy, I usually spell it "AmSoil." Is that better?

Thanks,

CJB

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CJB

Nice personal attack.

You look real mature. You would fit in with my 8th graders. Or maybe their little brothers and sisters.

Jeff

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Jeff

Doing a google search on you, seems your nothing but a spammer. And not a very bright one either.

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Bob

gee bob, that's an even better comeback than the one Andy AmSoil directed towards me.

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Tom

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