Sad day for America

How much do you get in your welfare check?

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Mike Hunter
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Actually if you do a search you will discover that the Chinese GDP is less than half that of the US and well below Japan by 25%.

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Mike Hunter

Actually the Republican party stuck to its principles of smaller government and more personal liberties as set down by the founders of our REPUBLIC of individual sovereign states

Are you saying that the republican party has been wrong to take a purely partisan stand against everything Obama attempts to do? I think they are wrong and it sounds like you agree with me.

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Mike Hunter

Compared to you I am a beacon and you are a candle ;)

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Mike Hunter

Me thinks you are not far off, look for more of the rich and the Corporation to go off shore

Abandon ship. There are other countries out there that can benefit from your skills.

I've had a fantasy of teaching math and science in the Philippines. Maybe I'll go there a little earlier than I'd originally planned...

Oh, boy. Obama is going to feel like he can do anything he wants, now.

All hands, abandon ship...

Michael Darrett

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Mike Hunter
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Paul W. Schleck

In a few more years he will be invisible

Well he hasn't done much for a year. Killed a fly on TV. Got a white cop and a black professor to talk over beer. That's about it. Now he'll think he's invincible.

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Mike Hunter

Mike,

Take a deep breath and relax.

Life goes on, and you probably won't notice a change.

Ed

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C. E. White

It appears the American people were smart for all those years because they knew allowing the government sneak into the healthcare business would eventually lead to Nationalization of our healthcare then they got stupid in the last election on allow us to start down that slippery slope with this bill. Our last hope is the 29 states that are willing fight BO and the Dims in the Supreme Court

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Mike Hunter

You can bet the first thing that BO and the Dims will cut is Nation Defense, as did Clinton. If we do that we will be at risk for a generation.

It was Clinton who stopped making the Brady Armored Troop Carrier that left us with the ill equipped Hummer, that led to the deaths of so many of our troop, until they could get enough of the Hummers armored for use in the war.

This debate over health care is exactly like the one FDR fought over Social Security. This is all about taxes; all the other stuff is just a smoke screen. And just like Social Security the Nation will discover long term benefits from making all its people more financially secure with health insurance.

Ya know, if we eliminated military-oriented earmarks the DoD says are not needed, we could pay for health care without raising your taxes.

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Mike Hunter

Ever notice when the BO and the Dims talked about "healthcare" they always were careful NOT to use the term "healthcare," but rather to use the words "people without HEALTH INSURANCE?"

The reason is they knew that under the "Hill-Burton Act," any American can walk into ANY hospital or Doctors office, that accepts Medicare reimbursements, and receive WHATEVER "HEALTHCARE" they needed, whether they had heath insurance or could afford to pay or not. NOBODY could legally be turned down, period.

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Mike Hunter

I tuned 84 today, left school in April 1944, you do the math. I, or anyone else, can give money to the US or a State Treasury. I am however limited by law in what I can give to a particular candidate.

As to the limited time a spend in any NG, I manage my investments, Company and Foundations online and have some free time between what I do, to drop in the NGs. I seldom debate, I try to educate or enlighten those that have an opinions that is obviously wrong or whose reasoning is simply convoluted, as I am doing at present.

Not too worry I was educated in one of Americas finest Engineering schools, I am no fool. My Attorneys have set up the trust funds so the monies used are dedicated to specific uses. If someone becomes a drug user or an alcoholic they default the trust and the money then goes to drug and alcoholic clinics, for example ;)

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Mike Hunter

Actually Ed I have noticed a change already. The cost of my Medicare Advantage Plan when up over 100% in anticipation by Blue Cross of the Billons of dollars reduction for Medicare Advantage Plan funds in the bill. Millions of us older American will be victimized by the $500,500,000 to be taken our of Medicare if this bill is not over turned by the Supreme Court.

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Mike Hunter
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Paul W. Schleck

"Human beings will generally exercise power when they can get it, and they will exercise it most undoubtedly in popular governments under pretense of public safety." --Daniel Webster

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Conscience

Amen!!!

Where were all these naysayers when we spent TRILLIONS on a war in a country that did NOT attack us?!

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me

That seems like a screw job by BCBS, which is exactly why the government needs to do something. I've never understood the attitiude of people on Medicad who are against government administered health care.

Essentially you are whining that it is not fair for other people to get the same benefits you already enjoy. And don't give me a bunch of crap about how you paid into to Medicad. So do I. I doubt you ever paid in as much as the benefits you will eventuially receive. You are old enough that you are ahead of the cost/benefit curve. Many are not. I am sorry that BSCS is using the reform bill as an excuse to screw you, but that is exactly what they have been doing to millions of people already. Welcome to the club.

Ed

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C. E. White

Yes,,,,,, we can tweak it as we go.

Better then the "do nothing..... you must die insurance" that the Repub plan hahahaha!

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me

And the problem with your line of reasoning is that the evidence doesn't support you -- every other developed democracy and Singapore have lower health care costs than we do, despite the much higher levels of socialism in their health systems. IOW countries like France and Germany, whose economies are dragged down by having way too much socialism in general, would actually be worse off if their health care systems were more free market.

And what is that private health insurance system you said covers you and has lower premiums and better benefits than Medicare? You've dodged that question several times, probably because you didn't tell the truth about it.

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larry moe 'n curly

Correct!

And these problems crop up no matter HOW WELL YOU TOOK CARE OF YOURSELF!

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me

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