G.M. and Ford Stuck in Neutral ---NY Times

Ask Honda, their numbers are down LOL

mike hunt

John Horner wrote:

You just described my 1987 Turbo 5-speed T-top Nissan 300ZX

I actually work in a dealership where the owner comes in at least once a month, the vice pres is also a co-owner.

After that theres the new car, used car, fleet, service, and body shop directors, then theres the body shop manager, and then there's me.

Being only 4 rungs down from the very top isn't that bad.

It's a shame that they stopped making the series, actually. Very nice little sportscars.

You got a point there. That car was canceled, and really, wasn't a good seller. They let it stay dead for a long time, too. There's more to it than that, isn't there.

GM and Ford both make a lot of snappy rear-drive sedans overseas. So Ford imported the Sierra from Europe, a really good car, and popular over there. It was marketed badly and a total flop. The car probably would have been a hit here, more Ford's fault. Now GM has imported an Opel as the Catera (did okay) and now recently the GTO. The GTO is also a flop, but again, the car is a tour de force of engineering. It just shows that there's a lot more to it than good suspension and drivetrain.

Trouble is, I really don't want the products they make here, but when the import something, I don't want that either. But when they build a new factory to make a rear drive sedan in the US, (like the CTS) then I like them. Generally, everything they have that actually looks like something is WAAAAAY the heck too expensive. Not the CTS, though, it's cheap. I haven't bought one or anything, but that's one product where I can't find an obvious flaw.