I heard it on the local news ... I hope Renault doesn't make the step
of buying themselves into GM! Let them focus on making good cars for
the non-US markets, and let GM (at least the US part) focus on making
good cars for the US. I don't believe that Renault investing money over
there will be of any advantage for us. Neither do I believe it will
really benefit the US people.
Nissan and Renault are already together. This could be a merger or an
alliance that could help save GM's future, I guess.
Both Nissan and Renault make pretty darn good cars..probably better in
the crap GM has been turning out. Renault has been terrible about marketing
in the USA, and some of their old production was pretty poor in quality.
I might consider buying some GM stock in hopes that this sort of alliance
Otherwise, my money would be, I am afraid, wasted on that paper.
I only know the Opel brand ... other GM cars are very rare over here, I
I'd rather have Renault staying focussed on making very good cars for
the European market, and other markets where they already have a stake,
than seeing them diverting their attention to winning a completely
different market. US companies are probably much better in serving the
US market anyway, I guess. Just as Renault is doing a very good job in
serving the European market.
Should GM sell GMAC, then they have cash left over after dept.
reduction to buy that car company that starts with a 'T'. Good move
before China starts dumping cheap autos in the US and eats everyone's
Don't bet on GM having enough money to buy anything starting with a "T",
not that that company would sell anyhow.
I expect the Chinese cars, sooner or later, and I expect them to be,
somewhere between the Yugo and the Kia or Hyundai in quality. Maybe I
will be pleasantly surprised.
Agreed. That is actually what I meant, but should give a big kudo to
They have made massive leaps in quality. China CAN do the same thing..They
certainly have it within their grasp to produce quality items.
You are forgetting a few things. The Hyundai brand of vehicles recently out
scored the Toyota brand of vehicles, in J D Powers initial quality survey,
of 2005 vehicles. You also forgot to mention the plant Toyotas is building
in China to make cars for the US. ;)
No, US brands are *not* doing a good job serving the US market, that's
why they're having their lunch money taken by the Japanese and European
brands. Now reintroducing Renault to the US would be a huge mistake as
they have an even worse reputation than GM here, but some current
Renault-style management could only be an improvement.
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I went by a Honda dealer yesterday. They had plenty of Accords, but not a
Civic to be found. Saleswoman said they are taking orders but cannot keep
up. Simply put, they get good gas mileage and won the Motor Trend Car of
the Year award. Drove by the Chevy lot and they had plenty of Cobalts and
I guess that just proves how the average new car buyer is uninformed when
one considers the EPA CAFE Guide, for 2006 vehicles, list the Civic with a
small 2.0L engine at 23/32 and the Cobalt with the 2.4L at 25/34.
Particularly when the Cobalt sells for $1500 to $2,500 less than the Civic..
If you look at the top models they are closer to $1000. IMO, the Civic is a
much sharper looking car. I've not driven, or even sat in them, so I can't
make a comparison other than looks and the Civic wins. People also put a lot
into the MT award too.
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