Now reintroducing Renault to the US would be a huge mistake as
Renault really does have a shitteaux image here, and they deserved it. They
have improved their
product quality greatly. Going back 4-5 years, the Renaults I have driven
in Europe are quiet,
smooth as glass, powerful. But winning a customer base with the Renault
logo is going to take
a lot of work.
Trying to sell anything in the USA that is considered French has no chance
in hell in this political environment, unless of course the product is
Champagne or perfume or you are NYC/San Francisco.
The thing about French cars that I remember well is that no mechanic except
one with a deranged mind could understand the engineering.
You better expect the chinese cars sooner or later. THey are making
very fast progress, and doing growing in many class c and b markets.
THey just need a few years to infilitrate a class markets.
for pics and info
Renault is not one of the star players in Europe. They do a mediocre job
there. That is, in fact, why the guy they sent to save Nissan is now also
I see no reason to think that Renault has anything to offer GM...except in
terms of an imaginative guy as top manager who is eager to make very large
cuts, as he did with Nissan.
The premise is not correct there is no way Renault and/or Nilsson could buy
up GM stock. What was propose, by one of GM major stock holders, was an
alliance between the three companies. The purpose is so GM can take
advantage of the economies of scale of world wide R&D and use more of the
less expensive 'world sourced parts to assemble vehicles in the US,' as does
Toyota in the US.
Since Renault already controls Nissan, don't you thin claiming Nissan is
going to buy anything is a little ridiculous? The guy that sold Chrysler
down the river, is now trying to do the same thing to GM. He doesn't give a
damn about GM or the US, he just needs for something to drive up the GM
share price so he can extort a little more money from less powerfule
invertors. If he relly cared about GM, he get the bozos running the company
fird, and hire someone with a clue.
Isn'tthat what a Renault buyout would accomplish? Say what you will
about Renault products, at least the ones sold in the US (and I've got a
lot to say about them, most of it unprintable) they are doing a hell of
a lot better as a business than GM is, and they already saved Nissan...
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What good is that? The point is, producing a product which will not
have to be recalled.
Losing a day or two use of your car? Thats if GM WANTs to do a recall,
unless they are fearful of a massive lawsuit or the government forcing
them to do one.
One of the last GM products my family owned was a ( don't laugh )
Citation. Oh brother. When they issued a recall on something or other
on that chassis, we drove to the stealership one morning..and
saw...literally..a 100 cars around the friggin block..and this wasn't
the next day after the recall..this was like a month afterward. Never
That is indeed GM's #1 problem, than hundreds of thousands of customers,
if not millions, have self selected themselves into the Never Again Club.
Decades of spotty quality and poor support of customers stuck with
problems has left GM in a terrible bind, and those customers will not be
quick to forgive or forget.
GM also continues the trend of building a few pretty good vehicles and
several pretty bad ones. For example, the GM minivans have had much
worse than the competition reliability records for over a decade now and
GM has never been willing to spend the money to get the vehicles right.
The last "redesign" of that family of vehicles was a pathetic joke
which amounted to grotesque nose jobs. Ford has made such a hash of
their minivan efforts that it looks like they are about to give up.
Granted minivans aren't the growth market today, but they are still a
substantial market. Even Chrysler is only making half-hearted efforts
to keep their vans competivie. Toyota, Honda and even Hyundai-Kia are
eating up market share in that segment every day.
Perhaps you might drive by ANY domestic dealers used car lot and take note
of all the import brands that have been traded for domestic models. GM and
Ford outsell ANY import brand by big numbers ;)
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