but it's still advantageous. you may not regard longer life, better fuel economy, lower wear as advantageous, but most people do.
sorry, that's incorrect. the adsorbed lubricant layer for a pao is more tenacious. that's one of the reasons it's a better lubricant.
wear product content of 2ppm vs 4ppm is small and "almost un-measurable", but it's 100% difference.
"esther" is a person's name. "ester" is a chemical compound group. but you're right, it's glycol ethers that are brake fluids, not esters.
ester lubricants otoh are multitudinous. "glycol ester" is a ridiculous trivialization.
As it approaches the limits of measurability, 100% difference may not be mathematically significant.
does that excuse work with taxes?
"End of story" is a good epitaph for this rather useless thread. This subject has been argued on this and other newsgroups for years.
You take the point that some are foolish because they dont subscribe to your ideas about lubricants, maintenance intervals, etc.
You havent proved any points. You just keep talking, saying the same old things, never with an iota of data.
It is boring.
Thread exited.
I have no horse in this race, but to answer your question about taxes - yes - you can round to the nearest dollar (in spite of the fact that you could carry everything to pennies). You picked a poor example to support your case.
...without you contributing a damned thing! buh-bye!
so if i owe a few $k, that's insignificant compared to the national budget, and i can "round down", right?
No, but if you owe either $0.24 or $0.48 (100% difference), you can.
From someone who has never even read the manual? I got to hand it to you.
Send it to Honda. May be they will rewrite the manual based on your findings. If the manual says changing oil every 20k miles, I will be the first one to follow.
wow dude - that's chutzpah!
eat your own dog food. do oil analysis. then you won't need to "follow".
No, there are rules for rounding. *Estimates*, however, are a very different matter altogether! :)
FEH! Practically any weather around here is fine if one is dressed for it.
Oh, that, hadn't occurred to me. I was puzzled as what you werediluting the oil with - fuel? Water? Thanks for the feedback.
Based on the question you asked earlier? That's actually a safe bet.
"honda have indeed done plenty of research and carefully written it into your owners manual"
If that's the case, there should be no need to do your own analysis. That is of course unless you think your research is more thorough and bullet-proof than Honda's.
How much clearer can you get than inline response to "with conventional oil"????? Sheesh!!!
That is assuming you actually GET those advantages.
But not all synthetic oils are PAO
Or a 50% reduction, to be accurate.
In fact, 500% difference may be totally inconsequential.
if you're using them, how can you /not/ get them???
right. the majority sold here are in fact group III's. the next biggest seller is group IV, pao's. ester-based motor oils are a tiny minority.
increasing from 2ppm to 4ppm is 100%. to be accurate.
relax. i'm just saying that in the context of the underinformed thinking that "most" [90%???] drivers are operating in "extreme conditions", as quoted above, you should have been specific.
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