As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If you've changed
your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be unimpaired
from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in the intake.
DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother to remove the
valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were sludged up or
not? This is not rocket science.
By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use of additives
like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the intake. The
two things are totally unrelated.
Thanks so much for your explanation and help.
I did call the dealer I bought the car from. And there IS a TSB for my
They said to pursue this further with the dealer I am having it
serviced at- and because itís a documented problem that was never
adequately fixed itís covered under warranty. I will attempt to get my
dealer to fix this, but at this point I do not trust them.
The dealer I bought from is 150 miles away but it will be worth it to
return it to them.
I love my car and have had no probs with it except for this ongoing
problem. Will let you know how this all works out.
> > Thanks very much Tegger for your reply.
> > I change the oil at the dealer every 3750 miles religiously
> even tho
> > the car is not driven under severe conditions.
> > I think Iím going to take it to the dealership I bought it
> from and
> > see if I canít get a straight answer.
> > Elmo, the Honda service person said that the Odyssey and the
> > both DO have this problem but not the Accord. (I googled
> this and
> > found that indeed it exists for the Accord too) But Iíll be
> > in knowing what youíve done to get yours corrected.
> As I say, there's only one source of oil in the intake. If
> you've changed
> your oil as religiously as you say, then drainback should be
> from the valve cover baffles and there ought to be no oil in
> the intake.
> DID the dealer do a VIN check for TSBs? Did they ever bother
> to remove the
> valve cover and PCV valve to see if the baffles/valve were
> sludged up or
> not? This is not rocket science.
> By the way, the type of gasoline used, or the use or non-use
> of additives
> like Techron, will have absolutely zero effect on oil in the
> intake. The
> two things are totally unrelated.
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I had this problem with my 99 Accord 4 cyl at about 40k miles too. It was
definitely a safety hazard the way the pedal was sticking. I perform all
the maintenance myself and I do it within the recommend intervals listed in
the owners manual. I also had the extended warranty at that time.
Like your case, the dealer solved my problem by cleaning the throttle body.
Then he refused to cover the cost with the extended warranty because no
"parts" were replaced. To my way of thinking that was BS and I told them
so. If something goes wrong and it is not a regular maintenance action
listed in the manual, nor is it a consumable item like tires, wiper blades,
or light bulbs, then it is an engineering defect and should be covered by
the warranty. Anyway, I ended up paying the dealer for the cleaning and
then writing Honda headquarters and letting them know what I thought of
their scuzzy business practices. Honda Corp agreed to reimburse me for the
cost, but I still came away with a bad taste in my mouth because they still
got away with not covering it via the extended warranty. So guess who is
not buying anymore extended warranties.
By the way, the service rep at Honda Hdqrts recommended that I use Chevron
gas with Techroline and also periodically add a bottle of Techroline
additive to the gas tank in order to keep the problem from recurring. I
think he said I should add it at least every oil change. Well, Chevron is
the only gas I have ever bought since the car was new. I do add a bottle of
Techroline ever now and then and it hasn't recurred yet.
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